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            <title>Re: Welcome to the Anglican/Episcopal/Old Catholic Forums!</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Hi all...I was baptised C of E, but am currently seeking my faith amongst the world religions (very heavy going sometimes **sigh**)<br />
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            <dc:creator>Minty</dc:creator>
            <category>Fellowship Forum</category>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Hello it is mine duty to inform you that we are somewhere on begin of the Tribulation in the phase where Anticrist is coming to power. He is now slowly putting his figures in position so when the time comes he will be revealed to the world. But we have about  2 or 3 years untill his revealing.<br />
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Now is not time to discuss about how i know this.... Stay focused this is battle between good & evil , psychological warfare. <br />
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1)             If you realy believe in God and Evil you need to know how they want to bring you from the path to salvation.  They are lying nonstop they never give up. <br />
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2)             Say in your mind some word again and again over and ove until you got feeling about this thought this is your active  thinking which they can not mime.  When you stop and there pop up some thoughts this are your enemy that is the channel you need to ignore..<br />
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3)             Cast out fantasy images out from your mind and not get influenced by your emotions.<br />
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4)             You need to be mentaly preapred soldier because they leading you from the path to salvation and  later ,  they will try to deny your faith in Jessus Christ and bring you in  damnation.<br />
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5)             Try to help people but if you see they just argue but don’t seek salvation or the truth they not listen , they rooted into this world and full of false teaching it have no sense to  force them or erase what they believe now.<br />
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6)             Don’t listen to anybody who claims to be prophet !!! God’s prophets are incognito and they will not say they are prophet’s or will not bring out books will not be on youtube they are like (special ops) they get their mission , come and do what god commands  and it is not before but when it start. There should be some prophets later but they will proclaim not i am the prophet but Jessus Christ is the  mesiah.<br />
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Wery Important what you need to do now ! <br />
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1.             Ask  Holly Spirit in your prayer that he open your hearth and you can honestly REPENT and then think about your life and what you have done wrong how many times you have sin and disobeyed God’s  10 commands or done something bad. It must come honestly from your heart the sign you managed it should be like mental collapse honnestly REPENTED  and you should feel relief on your hearth.<br />
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2.             Then go and Baptize ,  if you can’t because you are already baptized renew your commitment to Jessus Christ.<br />
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3.             Don’t violate any of the 10 commandements and if you do repent when you are aware off that you sined again and  to be sure later renew again comitment to Jessus Christ.<br />
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4.             Watch out now you are like target to most off the people and they will try to draw you down to SIN.<br />
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5.             Go to church Satturday and Sunday you can not be sure which day is now the right one. You dont need to be there hours or to hear preaching it can be just between you and God praying 20 min should be enough the sin is to be aware of the day and to be in church and to be aware of god , and not working  some scriptures write not sell or buy.<br />
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6.             Don’t worship or knee down before anything except God , Jessus Christ and Holy Spirit. <br />
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<SPREAD TO EVERYBODY YOU CAN>  <br />
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THAT THEY SHOULD &gt; HONESTLY REPENT FROM THEIR SINS &gt;  AND AFTER GET BAPTIZED OR RENEW THEIR COMMITMENT TO JESSUS CHRIST AND NOT SIN  - NOT EVEN ONCE - MAYBE IT SEEMS TOO MUCH RADICAL BUT WE ARE NOW FIGHTING EVIL FOR OUR SALVATION THIS IS THE TIME TO HOLD ON IN OUR FAITH STEADFAST. AND SPREAD THE TRUTH SO PEOPLE OPEN THEIR EYES , HISTORY IS REPEATING BEFORE THEIR EYES AND THEY ARE BLIND. -REMEMBER NOAH-<br />
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AND TO ADMIN THIS IS NOT A JOKE DO NOT DEAR TO DELETE THIS POST I WARNED YOU.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>repentime</dc:creator>
            <category>Meet and Greet</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 10:24:15 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>First Holy Communion</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Can someone explain to me why we Lutherans wait until 6th grade to receive First Communion while Catholics celebrate this Sacrement in 2nd grade?? Is there a reason? Is it just tradition? I keep getting asked this by my Catholic family members and friends. We attend so many Communions of 2nd graders and I keep getting asked why my daughter who is in 3rd grade hasn't had her Communion yet. We say, "she will in 6th grade" and they are always so puzzled and ask why?? I must admit, I don't know. What should I say next time I'm asked? Thanks!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>heal103</dc:creator>
            <category>Message Board</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:44:24 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Hannah Montana Scandal!  Thanks, SATAN!!!</title>
            <link>http://www.christianfora.org/forum/read.php?21,14476,14621#msg-14621</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Who knew Satan had a digital camera?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>kiwimac</dc:creator>
            <category>Rumpus Room</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:52:33 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Jonah</title>
            <link>http://www.christianfora.org/forum/read.php?53,14619,14619#msg-14619</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Reading that last entry.. nothing has changed.<br />
Except now the one person I trusted in r l has thrown me overboard like Jonah.<br />
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God... I can't believe that you would refuse to answer rayer because it comes from a sinner.... but, that seems  to be what your people think,<br />
So, whatever..I give up. There is no point trying to serve You if it makes things worse for others.<br />
I know I am damned..I wanted to try to show others how to get out.. how to find Your love..<br />
But I should have known that it wouldn't work, that my involvement would spoil it for everyone.<br />
So.. what now?<br />
I do still love You... Iwant to serve You, but it seems that even prayer isn't an option now,.<br />
Where do I go now?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Criada</dc:creator>
            <category>Criada's Blog</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 07:21:53 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Aaarrrggghhh</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ What is the point?<br />
God, if You care, why don't You help? Why do you let all the hurt go on.. why do you let wonderful people get to the point of desperation where they can't go on?<br />
Lord, I can't stand all the hurt and pain I see and hear.. how can You let it go on.. when You could help...<br />
These are Your children... do something... or what is the oint? Why don't You answer their prayers?<br />
I know I don't deserve it.. but Lord... please.. why let them suffer so much.. why not just make it right for them?<br />
It's too late for Jura... and I know he's with You.. but.. why like that?<br />
And what about Moriah, Sayrah, Tilly, Bellicus, Michelle, Katey, April..... so, so many others<br />
Help them.. please,p leasse help them... <br />
I don't understand... and I'm finding it harder and harder to believe.<br />
I don't want to let You down... but I can't do this, lord.. i can't take all the pain and hurt.. and watch while You don't seem to hear....<br />
I know it hurts You.. but... I can't understand it...]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Criada</dc:creator>
            <category>Criada's Blog</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:28:33 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>the end?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Back to type into the void. Odd how that helps..<br />
I can't go on.. but I can't die yet.. because the kids aren't old enough to cope..<br />
So.. back to burying it all and pretending, until my brain gives up totally because of the tension between belief and reality..]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Criada</dc:creator>
            <category>Criada's Blog</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:31:20 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>enough</title>
            <link>http://www.christianfora.org/forum/read.php?53,14603,14603#msg-14603</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ I wamt to die. It's a cop out.. but the choices all hurt so much.. and I am a coward.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Criada</dc:creator>
            <category>Criada's Blog</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:09:28 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Kerygma Conference</title>
            <link>http://www.christianfora.org/forum/read.php?99,14596,14596#msg-14596</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Kerygma Conference is a two-day Catholic learning event that started in 2007. It is the brainchild of Bo Sanchez, Catholic lay preacher and best-selling author. It aims to create a profound impact on the participants so that they may be able to fulfill God’s purpose for their lives.<br />
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LiveLoveLearnLaugh @ the Kerygma Conference 2008! <br />
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The one of a kind Catholic Learning event is back! <br />
Are you Catholic but "not loving it"? Here's a chance to get it all back-the times of innocence when you were a kid in church, running down the pews - not knowing that the ceremony being held in front was a doorway to an event that happened 2008 or so years ago.<br />
Awaken the Miracle Within<br />
November 29-30, 2008 <br />
November 29, Saturday<br />
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BE INSPIRED AND BE BLESSED IN THE BIGGEST, MOST POWERFUL CATHOLIC LEARNING EVENT OF THE YEAR!<br />
Start:     	Nov 29, '08 8:30p<br />
End:     	Nov 30, '08 8:30p<br />
Location:     	Philsport Stadium (formerly ULTRA)<br />
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What can you expect from the Conference?<br />
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* Powerful talks and exhortations from renowned Charismatic preachers and priests that are sure to awaken the miracle waiting to happen in your life;<br />
* Worship experience that provides respite from today’s hurried pace that will rekindle the fire in your spiritual life;<br />
* A chance to receive God’s healing touch through our guest healing minister;<br />
* And who knows, God may be cooking up a personal surprise for you through the Conference!<br />
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Please visit our  Kerygma  Conference Site at  [<a rel="nofollow"  href="http://kerygmaconference.multiply.com/">kerygmaconference.multiply.com</a>]  .Please add this event in your  MULTIPLY  calendar.. Thanks! Anna]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Annasamovar</dc:creator>
            <category>Meet and Greet</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 02:31:48 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Out of Work...</title>
            <link>http://www.christianfora.org/forum/read.php?104,14578,14578#msg-14578</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ ... will do web work for reasonable fees if anyone needs something done.   Mostly graphics, HTML, and CSS -- can do a little Javascript and PHP/MySQL]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Moriah Conquering Wind</dc:creator>
            <category>Bartering Bazaar</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:45:01 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: electric minds</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Pm is sent Hope type to you soon.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>runnyooze</dc:creator>
            <category>Other Discussions</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:30:28 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: electric minds</title>
            <link>http://www.christianfora.org/forum/read.php?79,14490,14503#msg-14503</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Will be travelling today so don't feel rejected if it does not IM straightaway.  PM your MSN thingy again too, some contacts went missing, not sure if yours bes one but just in case OK?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Moriah Conquering Wind</dc:creator>
            <category>Other Discussions</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:43:31 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: electric minds</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode">Quote:<div><strong>Moriah Conquering Wind</strong><br/>Yes! it would be nice to talk.  but as it bes lost its job now you will have to foot the bill (sorry)<br />
Please do PM the link.  Would like to read more.  That one chapter just floors it.  The parallels bes too uncanny....<br/></div></blockquote>Tis is "UNCANNY" There is much interesting material in different sections of the FTP...Please these resources are sensitive and although this forum is public to an extent I'm sure  these material will remain in vogue and secrecy and NOT exposed, I feel these are interesting and important articles to explain "ALOT" of phenomenon that has occurred in our lives. Link is in PM I will keep MSN online if tho wants to approach me in that genre. LOVE you .]]></description>
            <dc:creator>runnyooze</dc:creator>
            <category>Other Discussions</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:26:50 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: electric minds</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Yes! it would be nice to talk.  but as it bes lost its job now you will have to foot the bill (sorry)<br />
Please do PM the link.  Would like to read more.  That one chapter just floors it.  The parallels bes too uncanny....]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Moriah Conquering Wind</dc:creator>
            <category>Other Discussions</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:33:25 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: electric minds</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ "Such Things are Known "<br />
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<strong class="bbcode">Dorothy Burdick, New York: Vantage Press Inc., 1982</strong> <br />
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Dear Daimonizomai..as a great Narcissist I have "always" said "www.alltheweb.com" was the best websearch out there it searchs not only website but all FTP.HTTP/Links.....I stumbled upon this FTP protocol which has benefited me in finding this "DANGEROUS" material.  I will forward you the link if thy wishes...I regularly wouldn't expose this but I felt it pertains to you in such a way and your symptoms its "SCARY" I do love you my sweet and sorry for being short with you about calling I definately can see a phone call in the near future. !]]></description>
            <dc:creator>runnyooze</dc:creator>
            <category>Other Discussions</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:09:41 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: electric minds</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <span style="font-size: small">first - let <i class="bbcode">daimonizomai</i> say it bes GOOD to see you around again. :moosh:<br />
next - this bes utterly <strong class="bbcode">phenomenal!</strong>  so incredibly accurate experientially (never mind the hardware issues, tech stuff, etc. with or without that it very much encapsulates being taken hostage by demons, programmed, mind-controlled, etc. by them)<br />
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this bit bes just brilliant ...</span><br /><blockquote class="bbcode">Quote:<div>
People have asked me, “What do these voices say?” They say, “We want to be your friends.” As in brainwashing they confuse the issue, and truth becomes obscure. Falsehoods seem reasonable. Indoctrination techniques resemble some techniques used in hypnosis. Like hypnosis they have a soporific effect, reiterating and repeating the same monotonous phrases.<br />
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“What you do is up to you. You’ve got to believe in yourself.” This remark is made until you are not really certain whether you know what you want or can rely upon your own opinion.<br />
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Pavlov said that a conditioned reflex can be worked out for every stimulus. In brainwashing, brain-changing results. Damage is done to the mind through drugs, hypnotism and other means, so that a memory of what actually happened can be wiped out and a new memory of what never happened inserted. The Voices, by interfering with sleep in a subliminal mode are able to stir up old memories and influence REM Sleep by vocal suggestion. They interfere with normal sleep patterns by inducing physical symptoms which result in jerks, cramps, irritation of the intestinal tract and skin, and in sexual arousal or sudden and unwanted awakening when rest is needed. All the subject is aware of is pain, discomfort, nightmares, unaccountable physical symptoms, fatigue and depression. At other times, he is euphoric with relief.<br />
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As in brainwashing, the Voices try to install a feeling of personal satisfaction by making the individual feel that he is needed in some way. The message is combined with physical reinforcement.<br />
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“We want you to feel good about yourself.” They specialize in uncertainty. You are always on an up staircase that is going down.<br />
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“Dorothy, we don’t know what we are going to do with you.” This comes after occasions of rebuttal, rebellion and general recalcitrance. It may be accompanied by good humor or very unpleasant remarks and physical symptoms.<br />
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In the beginning, although one is not incarcerated except mentally and environmentally, the subject feels dreadfully tired and worn out. Returning POWs describe it as being like an automaton or going about in a daze.<br />
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The Voices use suggestive interrogation with desired answers implied in the wording. They alternate this with a barrage of denunciation and accusation to make you cringe. The more tired you are, the more it upsets you. They excavate the psyche for areas of sensitivity involving social attitudes, sex, marital and family relationships and feelings about self. Any vulnerability will do, and all the time, fatigue both physical and mental, is working for them. The more sensitive and reasonable the individual, the more vulnerable they are. Pushovers for indoctrinators are very intelligent but uneducated, especially the indecisive minds that always see some valid point in the other side's argument.<br />
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The victim’s feeling is that his thinking is being directed. The brainwasher has been called a corticovisceral psychiatrist, able to interfere with the normal path that every human follows in life. Such a Voice directs or suggests to the subject a new route leading off in an entirely new direction. Conflicts arise in anyone between known emotional responses and those of which he is unaware and which are suppressed. No one actually knows or realizes what is going on in his own subconscious mind. The Brainwasher Voice is trained to increase such conflict and to manipulate these responses.<br />
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A great effort is made to arouse guilt feelings. Failures to meet a standard of achievement or conduct are used frequently as guilt stimuli. A decided effort is made to uncover normal failings and to take advantage of them in order to hammer them into a guilt complex. No matter how guilt arises, it is necessary to the Voice Indoctrinator for projection purposes.<br />
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The Brainwasher Voice continually attempts to sow doubt in the mind of the subject. Regardless of the strength of conviction of the individual so attacked, the moment doubt clouds the mind, it leads to tension. Tension is related to fear, and guilt also produces fear.<br />
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They asked me, "What do you want lo do?" My answer was that I wanted to survive. Fear itself is an expression of unsatisfied need for survival and security. First reactions are nervousness, tension, apprehension and depression. They make the need for security and self-protection even more acutely felt.<br />
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Fortunately for me none of this was done in a really controlled environment, yet my privacy in all things was gone and I was isolated from human intercourse because nobody could believe that the Voices I heard were anything but inventions of my subconscious.<br />
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As a result of these artificially induced pressures including chronic fatigue, I was deprived of strength to combat repetitious suggestions and started to doubt my own thoughts and convictions.<br />
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Suppose in this condition that ideas are suggested at a subconscious level, not positive suggestions used in department store tapes to prevent stealing, but destructive behavioral ideas that will result in a poorer self-image, lowered confidence, both physical and mental, and atypical behavior. The suggestions assume a symbolic significance to the individual. Suppose the assault on the mind, body and nervous system is continual over a twenty-four hour period seven days a week. In this state one begins to live in a realm of fantasies and false beliefs. In the hands of Brainwasher Voices and technologists with Space Age Tools, anyone is malleable. An illusory, surreal, invisible environment is created, real only to the victim.<br />
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In a prison camp one can make up one’s mind not to listen. There are other prisoners. As a laser receiving station in your own home and environment one has to listen involuntarily and still try to act normally, perform tasks, drive a car and do routine things as much as possible. The incarceration is real, but unseen.<br />
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The tools of mind attack include suggestion, mockery, fear, fatigue, deception and manipulation. As in brainwashing, the Voice sometimes begins with ideas and ideals with which the recipient can agree. The only relief from tension in this insidious process is laughter or drugs like sleeping pills and alcohol. The receiver forgets that he is the one who is suffering from fear, uncertainty, browbeating and the invasion of privacy in sex, toilet and social relationships. When he most fears for public performance and they let up, he feels grateful for no reason at all.<br/></div></blockquote>
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<span style="font-size: small">Where bes you quotes this from?</span>]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Moriah Conquering Wind</dc:creator>
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            <title>Re: electric minds</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Current “injection logic” circuits, (Josephson junctions) operate at temperatures so low that metal loses resistance to electric current. The less resistance, the faster the current flows and the faster the computer works. Invented by Tushar Gheewals at IBM, the circuits operate in as little as 13 picoseconds, or trillionth of a second. Roughly, a picosecond is to a second what a second is to thirty years. This is about the same as the speed of light.<br />
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            Suppose you are observed over a long enough period of time for analysis of your thoughts, speech, prejudices, view-points, sexual peculiarities, and likes or dislikes of both people and things. What kinds of words would make you happy or unhappy if they were programmed by an artificial intelligence expert with the help of a psychologist or psychiatrist? “Bizarre,” you say. “Possible,” I say, psychological analysis has been a hobby for a long time.<br />
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            Let’s take it a little further, and let’s assume the computer program is out to make you as uncomfortable as possible in the privacy of your own home or anyplace else. “Really, impossible,” you say. Stop and think a while. It takes a little getting used to. There will be many things in your life that upset you or make you unhappy. You may have expressed yourself aloud to close friends in person or on the phone. You may have blown your stack at work or been talked about. In our society the walls literally have ears. Anything that vibrates can be read at a distance, even your vocal cords. Assume that for some reason you come to the attention of someone in security, either national or international. You could do this very easily by making an overseas phone call or a trip, or you could have a relative who is involved with someone in whom the U.S. government is interested.<br />
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            Originally, when the harassment began, I wondered if the repetition of my thoughts were bounced back by a tape recorder. Later I realized that only a fast computer could transmit them back, and that no human could read it back so quickly over space. Human comment, however, might be inserted by an observer reading some kind of visual display if he was close enough.<br />
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            Properly programmed, the Cray can project to you in any voice selection on the basis of the structure of your sentenced thought, which will reach it before you have really formulated it, and select either a suitable programmed answer or read back to you what you have been thinking. Thus, you may really be programming yourself. It may even seem to anticipate your answers.<br />
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            What I am saying is that you have to transform the thoughts in your mind verbally but silently. Although they are unspoken, the muscles that drive speech formulate the words in advance, and can form an electric potential track in your brain that can be read at a distance by telemetry. Each nerve impulse causes a sound imperceptible to the human ear which can be picked up by laser.<br />
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            A trained observer or observers can insert speech if they read what you are about to think or say. There is a lag time between the formation of the words in your brain and the formed thought, which gives the computer time to read part or all, or guess to a fair degree of accuracy what you think, and return an appropriate or inappropriate answer depending upon how you feel about it. At times they may even seem funny. Your electric potentials will always anticipate you a little.<br />
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            The feeling that your mind is being read can be produced by a thought being verbally introduced at a subliminal level. At that threshold you are not aware that it is presented, but because your brain resonates, the thought is received and you become “conscious” of it. It is designed to be intense enough to influence the mental processes or behavior of the individual. It literally “crosses your mind.” Next, at a higher sound level a Voice repeats the thought you just received without knowing it, thus consciously producing the sensation of mind reading in the receiver. You think, “they must be reading my mind!” What they are really doing is presenting an acceptable idea in your phraseology that you are most likely to be thinking while you are involved in a particular kind of activity.<br />
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            Subliminal aural suggestion presented in a manner typical of your habits of thought and speech is hard for the receiver to distinguish from the original thought, original in that it really started in the mind of the receiver and wasn’t suggested to him. Just how hard is it to differentiate between the two, the original idea and the suggested idea, is hard to estimate. You really have to be paying strict attention to yourself and what you are doing. You still might not be certain, because the presented idea might be typical of your mind set so that you could accept or go along with it. Should the idea just “pop” into your head and not be part of a train of thought you might be suspicious. Unfortunately, with this kind of thing, an idea can be “slipped” in. If it seems logical or fits your mood or mode of thought, you would not question it. Often it would not matter, but while using machinery, driving a car, or piloting a plane it could become fatal.<br />
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            Suppose you forget something and suddenly were reminded at a subliminal level. You could not be sure that you yourself remembered or whether it was called to your attention by an outside mind keeping track of your activity. You could be writing something and thinking as you write and suddenly write the wrong word. On re-reading it, you would realize that as you wrote it, it was “introduced.” You might misdial a phone number and not be sure whether you made a natural mistake or one that was inflicted at a subliminal level.<br />
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            When you finally realize what is really going on you are certainly going to be upset, at the very least. High "verbals" are natural prey for this kind of situation, especially if they can be observed. They express themselves well, often aloud in writing. Their thought patterns and methods of arriving at conclusions or solutions, their modi operandi, can be predicted if they are observed over time.<br />
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            It is an extremely debilitating, nightmarish situation to be in. For instance, during REM (rapid eye movement) sleep when you are dreaming, ideas are verbally suggested to you at a subliminal level thus controlling or influencing your dream content. With a combination of subliminal, aural presentation of ideas plus the introduction or infliction of bizarre physical effects, real hallucinatory images and effects could be produced. The more emotionally upset you are, the more effective this kind of psychological technique is likely to be.<br />
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            We used to worry about just being observed in our homes. In George Orwell’s 1984, every home had a watching monitor. It is now only 1981. The monitor has been around since the fifties in one form or another. The ultimate in mind control has become possible. We have the technology, the psychological techniques and the people willing to use them. It is not preventable at present. Fortunately, we still have time to protect ourselves from government experimentation if we are aware of it, because only the U.S. government has the technology, manpower and material to mount such an effort.<br />
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            Once you are a victim you become aware of the possibility of suggestions to people; who you meet casually, or your friends, or relatives, or your immediate family. There is no one who cannot be reached in this way. You are never absolutely positive that what they say or do is suggested, but you may have strong suspicions when something they do seems atypical, or out of context, or something is said you have been forced to listen to before involuntarily.<br />
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            In the future we may all have to go around wearing some protective device on our heads to prevent our resonating cortexes from receiving unwanted messages. My brother’s suggestion of putting a bucket over my head was not too far off. The only problem with his suggestion was that a bucket is not sophisticated enough.<br />
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            You know your cortical signals are read, because you receive obnoxious stimuli to various parts of your anatomy through the electrical stimulation of the cortical layer or your brain. The cortex has been mapped, and stimulation of the proper section of cortex will make you salivate, sneeze or jump with muscle spasms, twitch or jerk. This sounds like a grade B movie, but the script is programmed by the U.S. intelligence service with your tax money.<br />
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            Cray II was in the works in early 1979, and the prediction was that it would do 500 million calculations a second, not just 100 million. A third, even faster computer, was taking shape in Seymour Cray’s mind beyond this. At Livermore’s fusion computer center a scientist said, “There’s no machine that Seymour Cray can conceive that would be too fast for us.” When it comes through his bedroom door some night he may change his mind. Perhaps with his security clearance he won’t have to worry, and will be able to ask it to leave, with the people who are operating it.<br />
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            Now, I know from talking to others that you are going to say, “But, it would take an awful lot of money and manpower to mount such an effort. Who would be interested in you, or me, or anyone?” The other, very human reaction is, “Who would be so mean that they would do such a thing to you?”<br />
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            Both of these arguments ignore the facts. We have unlimited material and manpower on duty twenty-four hours a day. The second response about mean people, is the most naive. Read the newspapers about what we still do to our Black People; the reactions of Blacks and Chicanos to unresponsive government; or the treatment of women by the military when they have the temerity to enlist. You can still read about WW II concentration camp victims and operators. Current European court cases are testimony forty years later to just how “mean” mankind can be.<br />
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            You should not be optimistic about civil liberties in an age when you are carefully examined by the Department of Education, the Social Security Administration, the Internal Revenue Service, the Department of Motor Vehicles, labor unions, medical insurance companies, credit companies, banks, employers, and all these facts are carefully stored in some computer to be regurgitated either by accident, or on purpose, when you least expect it and for the flimsiest of excuses. Add to this, money from the LEAA (Law Enforcement Assistance Administration) for police enforcement, intelligence, and so-called crime fighting; and you will find that it is only a short step from your police department to your bedroom, if some nosy Nellie of either sex decides to make life hot for you! Our society isn’t open, it is wide open. If anything else is to be done about harassment and the preservation of privacy, then people must be made aware of what is possible now, incredible though as the facts may seem.<br />
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            Among acknowledged gadgets are a police crowd control device consisting of a high frequency sound generator which produces about twenty-five to thirty-five kilohertz, coupled to a high efficiency tweeter and some concentrating baffles. This machine is something like a bullhorn. The beam produces severe nausea, pain, the desire to urinate and defecate, but more especially to get out of range. There is no reason why these symptoms cannot be produced from space.<br />
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            In the home, sonic cushions that contain transducers which emit low frequency musical vibrations directly into the body of the person sitting against them are becoming familiar. The cushion has a separate power amplifier that hooks to any music system. Recently a popular magazine suggested that sitting upon such a cushion produced pleasurable sexual sensations. Teddy bears similarly equipped are used to lull babies to sleep.<br />
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            Hearing aids are available which fit eyeglass frames to send vibrating waves through the bone structure at the back of the ear so that the deaf may hear. This hearing aid is the result of miniaturization involving an ultra-small microphone and amplifier. It contains transducers that transmit vibrations directly into the body of the person in contact with it. The whole device fits into the stem of the eyeglass frame.<br />
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            Such microminiaturization in which a microscope has to be used to etch or photograph a circuit on a silicon chip is relatively easy for the layperson to grasp. Not so easy is micromeasurement and sensing. One type of light sensor or photosensitive matrix is a composite of 10,000 minute silicon light sensors on a chip about a quarter of an inch square. Reflected light is focused onto the matrix. The resultant pattern of lighted and unlighted sensors is fed into circuitry for conversion into measurements of area, height, width, etc., which in turn are converted into a seven digit code. Field effect transistors calibrate to infinitesimal accuracy. Small built-in computers convert data into an audio signal or print. Recorded data can then be transmitted over ordinary telephone lines to a computer bank. Some TVs are equipped with a decoder to convert sound to print for the deaf.<br />
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            Much of the technology that we are now using has been under development over a long period of time. The prototype of the modern mind-reader was developed in 1947 and called the Toposcope. It was similar to twenty-two small television or radar sets.<br />
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            Research on the human brain has been made possible by some of the newer machines. The Sono Chromoscope is currently being evaluated at the National Institutes of Health to identify tumors and abnormalities. Cheaper than x-ray, it is absolutely safe and permits continuous recording of tissue at work. Computer technology converts one kind of signal into another to produce an accurate diagnostic color picture of the human interior. High frequency sonar is transmitted in blue, while low frequency may be a red dot.<br />
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            NMR (nuclear magnetic resonance) tomography can map the progress of chemicals injected into the brain. The Gamma Ray camera, consisting of 254 scintillation detectors, each collimated to scan approximately one square centimeter of brain cortex is connected to a small digital computer. This, in turn, is connected to a TV where the blood flow level is shown in specific colors indicating what areas of the brain are active.<br />
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            The whole body can be placed in a magnetic field of 450 gauss exciting body atoms with radio waves. Subsequent measurement of the intensity of the waves emitted over time gives information about the chemical composition of the subject’s tissues. The time it takes for the atoms to “relax” after radio wave bombardment gives some indication of the cell’s general nature. NMR employs no ionizing radiation and therefore seems safer than conventional techniques like x-ray.<br />
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            The PETT (position electron tracking tomogram) tracks radioactive chemicals and forms a computerized image, providing the first direct glimpse of the brain at work, plus a more superior estimate of its condition than CAT (computer assisted tomography). The computer reconstructs abstract measurements into images played out in color on a TV screen. PETT scan can be photographed or videotaped while an individual is walking, talking, reading or thinking.<br />
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            FOCUS (flexible optical control unit simulator) projects hallucinatory images directly on the retina of the eye. When the images are projected the subjects show the same bodily responses that they would by taking a drug. The subjects cannot tell the machine images from reality. FOCUS was developed at UCLA’s Neuropsychiatric Institute by Ron Siegel, an experimental psychologist, who eventually hopes to control retrieval of imagery information at will, including that of daydreams, sleep, and hallucinations.<br />
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            There is a common wiring and a correspondence of chemical and electrical properties in the human brain. Fever, delirium, epilepsy, syphilis, photostimulation, sensory deprivation, extreme hunger, cold, thirst, crystal gazing, swinging in the witch’s cradle, hypoglycemia, and a variety of drug intoxications make the brain respond in patterns that are definable, predictable and explainable in terms of where they come from and how they were produced. This universal experience is probably what Jung meant by the “collective unconscious” and typified by symbols like the mandala.<br />
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            Body functions tend to synchronize around stimuli that match them in frequency. Baselines from normal individuals have been established through measurements with the EEG (electroencephalogram). The EEG shows brain waves in both periodic and pulse mode. At normal frequencies, eight to twelve alpha waves occur per second. Breathing, heart rate, and the rhythm of alpha waves can be controlled to some extent both by the individual himself and the external stimuli such as lights and microwaves.<br />
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            Radio-scientist Anthony Fraser-Smith has shown that the third rail of San Francisco’s Bay Area Rapid Transit and Washington D.C.’s Metro expose people up to 160 kilometers away to broadcasts of ultra-low frequency radiation from ten hertz to .001 hertz. Studies have shown that human reaction time increases at 0.2 hertz. These frequencies make people feel drowsy and produce changes in their blood.<br />
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            With this in mind it is easier to comprehend that brain control by electronic stimulation is possible in much the same way that a heart pacer is used to regulate the heart beat. Both seen and unseen, heard and unheard wave frequencies can affect the brain and nervous system.<br />
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            Some researchers show that theta waves predominate when an individual is involved in memory storage and learning. They also seem to occur in times of reverie, annoyance or anxiety. Animals which retain training best, show the highest levels of theta waves during training. Ross Adey, however, has shown that he can increase the rate of learning and memory retention in primates and cats by using a frequency range similar to the alpha and beta waves of the brain.<br />
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            During hypnotism, synchronization of breathing, heartbeat and alpha waves takes about ten minutes in a willing subject, and is associated with feelings of well being. A simple gadget like a hypnotism wheel with a special strobe pattern produces a falling illusion and produces a so-called trance state. These can also be produced by sound waves. Frequency rates of these biological signals are reduced during a trance-inducing procedure. As the mind becomes fixed it becomes more susceptible to suggestion. Relaxation, resting and sleep are also helpful in inducing a hypnotic trance. While hypnosis can be a helpful technique, it is also part of mind control.<br />
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            Other brain waves have individual, identifiable frequencies. Beta, delta, and theta brain waves can be separated in any brain reading because they all have different frequencies. Recently an N400 wave has been identified, so named because it occurs 400 milliseconds after a sentence had been heard in which there is a high level of expectancy about its completion, and this expectancy is violated. The P300 wave occurs in response to a sudden alarm or flashing light, and occurs 300 milliseconds after the stimulus. A P300 wave comes not from the cortex, but from the limbic system where feelings originate and occurs only as an emotional response.<br />
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            It is my belief that all these brain waves or electrical signals can be read at a distance, and that the human brain can be both a resonating transmitter and receiver. Further, I am saying that I am being harassed by unknown parties with whom I have been in constant contact for about three years consciously, and I am not sure how long before that, while base lines of various kinds were being established.<br />
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            I have chosen a time in our national history to protest that the National Security Agency is undoubtedly experimenting with some of its more exotic toys on an unsuspecting civilian population, when we are in the process of giving back to the CIA and similar agencies some of the powers that had temporarily been taken away from them due to Watergate. Our Congress is in disarray, revealed by the FBI to be both gullible and venal. Our country’s petrochemical supply is being threatened by communist, and in the mist of all this, I come up with the idea that civil liberties and individual privacy are at stake in ways that seem inconceivable. Even in the best of times I would have difficulty getting a hearing for this kind of story.<br />
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            Our present electronic laws are constructed to prosecute after the fact. There seems to be no successful method of proving harassment with this type of technology because there is no hard evidence. One of the reasons that it is impossible at present to prove, is that no one will admit publicly that the possibility exists. Despite the fact that William Colby mentions it on a TV show, and that a newspaper reporter was thrown out of a meeting in which well known Ph.D.’s from UCLA, MIT, NYU, NASA, and ARPA were specifically discussing a machine to read minds from a distance by deciphering the brain’s magnetic waves; and the specific goal of which is to exercise control over the brain. Nobody will admit that it can be done. The so-called experts have their jobs and families to protect. Security agency employees are bound by secrecy oaths, as are many academicians. The professors say, “That’s an area outside my expertise.” Paul said, “I am not into lasers.” Very few people have the kind of education necessary to understand the innate possibilities and dangers of current technology.<br />
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            Anonymous phone calls are something for which we are beginning to find a cure. Anonymous broadcasts are something else, especially if only one person hears it. This is possible via laser. It is so precise that a whole new body of measurements is mandatory and possible.<br />
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            Your most private and intimate bodily routines become forced performances and are commented on as they unfold. Your mentally verbalized fantasies become public property. You can be questioned at the subliminal level and started on a whole new train of thought. Thus the inserter of the question would have a very good clue as to what you were thinking about. You could also be made to change or modify your course of action, in other words “your mind.”<br />
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            The worst element in all of this is subliminal suggestion, with its inherent capability of conditioning and directing thinking; and through this, control or direction of individual behavior both now and in the future. Young and unformed minds are going to be most susceptible. The emotionally upset and unstable will be next. Americans need education and information to defend against this kind of technocracy. Most of all they need to be told the truth.<br />
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            I can keep silent and avoid embarrassment, ridicule and disbelief. A policeman told me to ignore it. A security man told me that my life could be made hell on earth. The main inventor, a physicist, told me it was impossible. The whole thing may be simply a combination of laser communication and AI, which I doubt. Regardless of what it is, all Americans can be reached, anywhere at anytime doing anything, without attachments and wires. Communications have come at least that far.<br />
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            Currently on planet Earth stone-age man and spaceman coexist. We have been coming out of an ancient jungle and have stumbled into a technological battle zone. What man imagines, he will develop and continue to develop.<br />
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            Although you cannot see them, only sense them, the largest unseen monsters are unchanged. They are ignorance, fear and superstition. The biggest question for our time is: How do we best adapt to this recent step in communications, and at the same time preserve the values we cherish? <br />
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[Note:1] There were probably additional electromagnetic methods, acoustics, and instruments. Sources familiar with the situation indicated that the author was implanted with devices and was unaware of it.]]></description>
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            <title>Re: electric minds</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Using an electronically powered radio telescope you have a machine optimized to detect extremely weak signals. Recently GEODSS (ground based electro-optical deep space surveillance) was completed two years ahead of schedule. GEODSS uses three powerful, miniaturized telescopes to scan the skies. The images they convey are focused onto sensitive photoimaging tubes rather than film. Using an outgrowth of military night-vision devices, these tubes convert the faintest flickers of light into electronic impulses fed into computers. GEODSS photographs rapidly several electronic snapshots. Moving objects between exposures are recorded by computer. Images that remain the same are erased. The information can be relayed by microwave and satellite to NORAD’s master computers. GEODSS is an optical digital computer using laser, not integrated circuits, to carry and process signals. It performs in microseconds tasks that occupied photogrammetricians for hours, and can spot a soccer ball 25,000 miles up.<br />
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            Magnetic observations by the Stanford Solar Observatory can detect magnetic intensities to a few hundredths of a gauss. The MEG (magnetoencephalogram) which records the magnetic field surrounding the human head is measured in gauss. It is not too hard to imagine that somewhere there exists a holographic interferometer specially developed to read the magnetic waves of the human brain at a distance.<br />
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            Since 1973, the Advanced Research Projects Agency of the Defense Department has utilized the combined efforts of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, New York University, the University of California at Los Angeles, and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration’s Ames Research Center at Moffett Field in California to read minds at a distance by deciphering the brain’s magnetic waves. The Pentagon denied the project was secret although a reporter was ousted from a meeting on the subject by someone identified as a member of the CIA.<br />
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            The MEG (magnetoencephalogram) is many times more sensitive than EEG (electroencephalogram). MEG was originally reported in 1968. A computer search of the current literature reveals little published on MEG because it is undoubtedly classified in ARPA’s (Advanced Research Projects Agency) computer network. ARPA controls and funds a computer network, ARPANET, which connects various educational and research institutions across the country. In 1972, twenty-seven institutions were joined by leased lines capable of handling data at a rate of fifty kilobits a second.<br />
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            Searching for help and information, I approached an acquaintance who unknown to me had been a former member of RAND and a designer of ARPANET. He represented to me that ARPANET was a benign activity. He even has a computer terminal in his house connected to it. ARPA research information is stored in this “locked computer” and unavailable. Access to “Host” computers is controlled by an IMP (interface message processor). ARPANET is also linked to NORSAR (Norwegian Seismic Array) and SDAC (Seismic Data Analysis Center) in Alexandria, Virginia. A satellite link transmits NORSTAR real-time data to SDAC. There it is combined and correlated with data from other non-secret global arrays to achieve a composite picture and made available to selected ARPANET users, including the NSA (National Security Agency) with whom it maintains a direct link. Somehow “benign” is not a word I would use to describe the activity of this computer network.<br />
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            All graduations of feelings and actions of which we are capable are provided by variations in the frequencies of nerve impulses and by the number of nerve cells stimulated. The brain signal is even simpler than Morse code because it uses only dots. All information can be translated by the number of dots, and the manner in which they are grouped. Communications engineers call this system pulse frequency modulation. The cerebral cortex is a resonator that encodes frequencies. To convert measurable brain signals or nerve signals to digital code for computer is extremely easy.<br />
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            The computer can recognize approximately sixty-four phonemes into which the English language has been divided. It is reasonable to deduce that the computer is capable of recognizing the patterns these phonemes produce in any human brain.<br />
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            Unlike the EEG, the MEG records signals primarily from a small area of the cortex free of the smearing effects of bone. This helps scientists pinpoint the source of electrical signals from the brain and to study the activities of the cortex. The MEG reads only the magnetic fields produced by nerve fibers close to the skull which are in the cortex. Any difference between EEG and MEG signals means that the source is deep in the brain and not cortical in nature. Both are necessary for the interpretation of thought and action of the human being. The MEG provides a map of the sensory homunculus or Brodmann’s cortical areas through which the human anatomy can be targeted. All parts of the face, hands, legs, foot, trunk, shoulder, mouth and intra-abdominal area can be stimulated by electrical contact with the cortex.<br />
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            Under ordinary conditions nobody around you is able to hear or understand your thoughts, but unbeknownst to you, every action, thought, and emotion, can result in the driving of the muscles involved in vocalization. The nerve impulses that activate them produce paths of electric potentials in the brain and muscles. The nerve impulse or electric potential is a miniature electrochemical explosion that travels along outside the nerve fiber as a vortex ring of negative ions.<br />
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            The Departments of Neurometrics at Stanford and New York University have brought the EEG to a new degree of sophistication by using computers to remove artifacts, such as sixty cycle hum and eye and body movements, to compute the wave shape of the AER (average evoked response) to a particular stimulus.<br />
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            Brain waves of volunteers have been analyzed as they look at photographs and are presented with true or false questions. The computer attempts to determine if the volunteer recognizes a specific photograph or is thinking true or false. Researchers claim they can determine when a volunteer recognizes another face by analyzing that volunteer’s brain waves.<br />
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            At Stanford, scientists are attempting to reverse this process and are attempting to transmit thoughts and instructions by playing previously recorded brain waves; thus, “You are programming yourself.” The human brain and eye are also being studied with computers so that photographic process can be understood. “We are seeing through your eyes.”<br />
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            The difficulties involved in reading these microwaves became surmountable with the deployment of SQUID (super conducting quantum interference device) which uses niobium coils in liquid helium. It is a circuit capable of measuring minute quantities of magnetic field or flux, quantum by quantum. It makes possible the measurement of the smallest magnetic fields. With modern electronic techniques, environmental magnetic noise is almost completely eliminated. By using a holographic interferometer (acoustic telescope) optimized to detect weak signals it would be possible to read the microvolt print of any human brain, since brain prints are as distinctive as fingerprints. Each individual has his own characteristic pattern of shifts in frequency and size. Thus brain waves of one individual can be distinguished from those of another.<br />
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            Electronic devices use ultrasonic waves to store and recognize electronic signals for use at a later time, perform operations that usually require a computer, and separate one signal from another. They also amplify weak electrical signals using ultrasonic waves. It is possible to do things with acoustic surface waves that are difficult to do with simple electronic components, i.e., recognize a signal of known form. Laser is so sensitive that it can actually “hear” and record the electrical potentials of nerves as they are transmitted.<br />
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            The interdigital transducer converts the electrical signal into an acoustic surface wave and reconverts the acoustic wave back into an electrical signal. Acoustic surface wave devices can be made precisely and uniformly by photolithographic reproduction techniques and are programmable. Such a device recognizes any desired code or signal from among other digital codes even in the presence of considerable “noise,” responding strongly to the programmed signal and weakly to all others. This kind of device is used in radar technology enabling air-traffic controllers to accurately pick out the unique identification signal of each aircraft as it comes within range.<br />
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            Another silicon chip, IOSA (integrated optic spectrum analyzer) uses surface acoustic waves to convert processed radar signals into sound waves. The sound waves interact with light from a tiny solid-state laser and cause the beam to bend toward a detector array made of charged coupled devices. This amount of deflection indicates the frequency of the radar signal. This device is part of a telemetry or remote measuring system which involves picking up signals, transmitting them to a distant location for conversion into displays, recordings or comparisons with other data. Automated reactions to information received directly or indirectly may be programmed.<br />
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            Wave analyzers deal with the complex oscillations of the brain in somewhat the same way that a prism separates the colors of a beam of light. The components of this complex wave are isolated by electronic circuits tuned to several frequencies. A statistical average can be determined from many readings. From this information, the versatility of the brain under investigation can be assessed, as well as its repertoire of adaptive stratagems.<br />
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            If mind reading is to take place, this technique must be applied to all parts of the brain at once involving many analyzers. Problems for researchers used to be found in the fact that frequency analysis of tactics might come too late to be of immediate value. In the past, frequency analysis did not give information on how rapidly changing signals from different parts of the brain related, or which of suggested meanings would be the correct choice. Now, via computer, all this can be instantly known.<br />
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            Suppose it is true, as some officials insist, that the MEG cannot really be read at a distance. What would make one believe that one’s mind was read? Artificial Intelligence (AI) has been developing over a period of at least twenty years. Many scientists have been engaged in making it seem that the computer can think. At a 1980 meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, Robert Wilensky of the University of California at Berkeley was asked if his program, PAM, had intelligence. PAM incorporates a sense of how people analyze and reason.<br />
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            Does the computer augment human intelligence instead of interpreting and repeating it? To do this the computer must deal with a massive volume of data and requires selectivity or the ability to decide what is or is not relevant. To the group of programmers at the meeting, the human brain is theoretically existent proof against computers. Perhaps they do not talk to bioengineers.<br />
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            The Cray, a large computer, has twenty to one hundred times the capacity of the smaller ones. It is different from machines that simply keep track of facts. It is specially designed for problem solving and can carry out biomedical experiments with the computer simulating the human effects. The Cray does one hundred million calculations a second. The human brain can only process five thousand bits of information per second. What kind of match for the Cray would you be?<br />
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            The computer works by using an acoustic processor to sample the wave patterns of the speaker’s voice at least 20,000 times a second. The information in the sample is digitized. A thousand samples are collected at a time and put through the procedure called discrete Fourier transform, which involves adding, subtracting and integrating waveforms to produce a useful synthesis of the information over time. This yields characteristic patterns known as spectral time samples, one hundred of them every second. The computer compares these with prototypes stored in the processor’s memory. The processor classifies the time samples according to the sounds of the original word. As the acoustic processor puts them out, a linguistic decoder matches the sound patterns to the most probable sentence pattern they seem to fit.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>runnyooze</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 03:23:03 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: electric minds</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Chapter 10 <br />
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Recently, through TV and the news media, there has been an effort toward making parapsychology respectable. A university in Great Britain gives a Ph.D. in the subject. The CIA has a program of “disinformation” which may be a convenient cover for scientists working on programs which seem to the uninformed to border on the occult, such as bioplasma research and Kirlian photography. Children are being trained to see auras when exposed to a box containing electrodes. As the voltage increases they see auras not generally visible to less sensitive adults. The auras can be photographed using Kirlian photography. Kirlian photography reveals electrochemiluminescence which surrounds all living matter. It is named for the Russian electrical engineer, Semyon Kirlian, who passed his hand through a high energy, high frequency electromagnetic field and saw an aura around it. Kirlian produced the first high-energy cameras that could photograph these auras. British biologist, Harvey Oldfield, has produced a radio device that displays the phenomena on a screen. British researchers are reported to be using high energy, high frequency beam of radio signals to monitor organic diseases. Hearts respond with radio signals in harmonic resonance which are picked up by the Kirlian “gun” and displayed on an oscilloscope screen. This instrumentation transposed to space could read vital signs at a distance. The U.S. government had information on this process in 1950 and released it to the CIA, Rand, the Air Force and other government agencies.<br />
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            The CIA has advertised for people in psychological services and they are known to do other things besides prepare statistics. The combination of psychology, the basis for brainwashing, and human behavior modification, known as conditioning, and electric shock has long been a treatment for experimental animals and the mentally ill humans.<br />
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            Various branches of the U.S. government are spending millions of dollars to finance Mankind Research Unlimited, Inc. (MRU). The goal of this corporation is mind control. MRU has done investigations of high frequency Kirlian effect photography, thought-controlled devices and psychokinetic switches. This is the device which permits a pilot to fire a missile by simply thinking “fire.” Computers can be linked to the brain to recognize electrical patterns in the cortex word for word.<br />
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            MRU has a brochure describing its interests in the fields of biophysics including “Geopathic Efforts on Living Organisms,” which are attempts to induce illness by changing the magnetic nature of animal magnetic field geography. Another MRU field of interest is behavioral science which includes the analysis and measurement of human subjective states by computer analyzed EEGs and biofeedback. MRU’s pioneering use of computer analyzed EEG probably led to CIA-sponsored Brain Research Labs at San Diego Hospital, Columbia, Stanford and New York Universities.<br />
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            MRU has investigated the computer analysis of psychophysical recordings including data obtained from EKG, EEG, GSR (galvanic skin response) and the plethysmography used to measure blood volume changes in the capillaries of fingers. These measurements would be supplemented with a recently developed apparatus for measuring electric field radiations from living bodies (System Research Laboratories of Dayton, Ohio, patent No. 3,555,529; 12 January 71).<br />
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            MRU facilities are located in seven states. In Mountain View of Los Altos, California, MRU scientists have tested psychoacoustical transmitters that produce sound patterns termed “infra and ultra-sonic” that interact with brain cells and erase information. Studies have been done to develop software systems to record and evaluate biological effects of special environmental factors on plants, animals and humans.<br />
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            Extensive studies have been conducted in sleep research of human unconscious behavior patterns with sensors to determine the effects of external phenomena on dreams. Interesting features of this research are the use of electromagnetic recordings of EEGs, ultraviolet and infrared sensors, precise weight analysis, and the correlation of these technical factors with electromagnetic fields, moon and planetary positions, and barometric changes.<br />
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            C.G. Jung connected depth psychology with theoretical physics and the natural sciences. An examination of what he and others have had to say about “synchronicity” leads the scientifically trained mind to the conclusion that synchronicity is a trickster. The clown theme appears in the folklore of many cultures and is generally connected to a belief in the occult or supernatural forces.<br />
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            UFO activity, analyzed by computer, seems to be some kind of scheduled reinforcement. If it is scheduled reinforcement who is causing it? Such reinforcement may have been the purpose of the odd aircraft activity which I observed, or it may have been to make me sure that humans only were involved. Most likely they were relay stations which have to get close enough to read the electromagnetic field given off by the human brain and body. When the CIA says that they cannot read Russian minds, it may be because they can’t get near enough to do so. “UFOs” may act as relay stations by getting close enough to a position of the subject, then read signals and transmit them.<br />
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            Left to himself, an individual may truly be said to be free except for his early childhood conditioning, and the values of his own which he has developed through trial and error which either negatively or positively reinforce his beliefs and behavior. Panic or emotionally upsetting conflicts can be evoked by stimulating conflicting drives. Under ordinary conditions, when two drives are unequal, the stronger suppresses the weaker. The manipulation of living creatures becomes possible when the means exists to activate and combine two different drives or cause confusion. Ordinary stimuli might be music and alcohol, and the added artificially-induced drive might be sexual stimulation with high frequency microwave energy. The automobile and the home can be invaded with messages from phone or satellite. Traffic control by aircraft is common. Why not mind control or directed thinking?<br />
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            Laser-projected Voices tell me, “You are doing what you want to do,” but I am never free of their broadcast stimuli which I can feel, and microwave or ultrasonic frequencies of which I may be totally unaware. I cannot be sure that I am not really in pain due to natural causes. I only feel unaccountable changes in mood such a depression, euphoria or relief.<br />
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            As long as I was unaware of what was going on, I could delude myself that my spontaneous activity was the result of the continual shifting and interplay of forces and ideas in my central nervous system. When I became aware that my environment was partially controlled, there were a whole new set of variables with which to cope. For me the price has been a complete turn-off of sexual fantasy affecting my sex life, and heightened, unpleasant nervous tension. I cannot pray, dream or aspire privately. There is no escape from the mundane, continuously present flat line of controlled or directed thinking. It gives me present and an unpleasant, nightmarish, repellent, at times falsely seductive, intimate, existentialist quality. One is traveling mentally from no-where to no-where. You exist in a funny house world with distorting mirrors. The reflections are partly real, partly exaggerated and partly transitional. My greatest strength has been a sense of humor and proportion. To fall below the flat line of directed thinking results in depression.<br />
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            The physical pain which can be inflicted, and the depression evoked are the greatest strengths of the operators at the other end of the beam. I cannot quite imagine how they measure the distortion they cause except from a reading of verbal thought, spoken words and unusual physical actions. At the very least they can immobilize or neutralize to the point of death through the inhibition of natural physical processes, the use of pain, and disruption of mental activity. The amount of mental activity blocked by depression is hard to gage. Since the process began I have not often had a free choice about what I wanted to think, and even when I did, I was aware that someone was reading my thoughts either directly through computer printout or indirectly at a later time and doing programmed bugging. In any case, the human urge to think, dream, love and create have been frustrated.<br />
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            One of the beauties of the situation for the perpetrators is that the victim has no records, tapes or pictures except those subjectively stored, written or spoken. The subject is in a classical neurotic, no-win situation. There are few dates, people or facts to report. Only a limited number of people in electronics, and our Federal government, can fit the fragments of circumstantial evidence together. Those who monitor equipment, simply monitor equipment. The blips, numbers, tapes and film clips that might result, are too removed from the flesh and blood, and transmitted over too great a distance to have any emotional meaning for the operators. They may not even know what they are transmitting. The only individuals to whom the object might be at all human would be a psychological behavioral result.<br />
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            If my premises are true, the United States government is involved in a program to control behavior through biophysics and electrochemical control. In July 1977, The New York Times reported a fourteen-year program by the CIA intelligence services to control human behavior with drugs, electric shock, radiation, ultrasonics, psychology and psychosurgery. As reported in Time, August 17, 1977, Admiral Stansfield Turner, testifying on CIA activity said that there had been no drug testing since 1973. He did not say that the use of ultrasonics, microwave and electrochemical energy had been discontinued. It never will be, because it is the technology of both now and the future.<br />
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            It is encouraging that there were difficulties finding psychiatrists to conduct experiments for the CIA. One memorandum reported that a particular psychiatrist might not care to cooperate in certain more “revolutionary” phases of the project. Another psychiatrist was described as having no ethical compunctions about being completely cooperative in the program regardless of how bizarre it might be.<br />
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            The CIA investigated bioplasma fields or weak electromagnetic fields surrounding both human and inanimate objects and monitored the bioplasma fields of agents, according to The New York Times. I am inclined to think that they were training agents in receiving laser messages and trying out the reading of unspoken thoughts formulated into words mentally. They also worked with trained seals and otters in the well-researched field of ultrasonics. Humans hear in a range of 15 - 20,000 cycles per second or hertz. Any frequency higher than this is ultrasonic, and cannot be consciously perceived.<br />
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            Newspaper accounts based on actual occurrences of unethical experiments show a procession of unpalatable events, exposed due to the persistence of individuals in freedom-loving organizations. Attempts have been made to present human experiments in a favorable light. Our scientific journals are replete with limited, but existing tales of experiments in which the individual was too incompetent due to mental incapacity or age to protest being used as a human guinea pig. The fact is that there are people in this country who have been subjected to experimentation both willingly and inadvertently.<br />
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            In 1950, Army reports show that a cloud of bacteria was sprayed over the San Francisco Bay area resulting in cases of pneumonia. In 1956, the CIA and the Army sprayed an unknown substance in New York City streets and the Holland and Lincoln Tunnels as part of their MK-Ultra program. Between 1949 and 1969, a period of twenty years, tests were carried out with simulated bacteriological substances in the United States, Alaska and Hawaii. These are facts, not fiction involving Dr. Strangelove.<br />
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            Under the Freedom of Information Act, a Church of Scientology group uncovered documents released by the CIA which showed that someone in this agency signed out a specimen of whooping-cough bacteria, Hemophilus pertussis, from the Army’s biological warfare center in Fort Deterick, Maryland, on January 26, 1955 for testing. Florida state medical records show that the whooping cough outbreak killed twelve persons in the mid-1950s. The whooping cough bacteria was used in tests in Tampa Bay and near Sebring, Florida. Records show that whooping cough cases jumped in 1954 from 339 with one death, to 1,080 with twelve deaths in 1955, an increase of over two hundred percent. Tampa Bay was one of the three places that showed a sharp increase. The CIA now says that most of its chemical and biological files were destroyed in 1973 by order of Director Richard Helms.<br />
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            In December 1980, the wife of a member of the Canadian Parliament and four other Canadians sued the U.S. government for five million dollars in U.S. District Court, charging that a Montreal psychiatrist conducted CIA-financed brainwashing experiments on them between 1957 and 1963. During this time they were given LSD and massive electroshock treatments to wipe out past behavior patterns. (The government track record on LSD is well-known through the publicized suicide of a U.S. government scientist, and the ensuing successful suit of his family twenty years later.) The Canadians were subjected to continuously played tape messages to induce new brain patterns. The plaintiffs contended that their mental health remains impaired as a result.<br />
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            During Project Dork, the Army released a powerful hallucinogenic drug, BZ, ten to one hundred times more potent than LSD, in clouds during tests in Utah in 1964. Between 1960 and 1969, 362 people were involved. The tests were supposed to prove that enemy soldiers could be incapacitated by inducing delirium. The effects were measured at a distance of a thousand yards. The “volunteer” subjects experienced an increase in heart rate and blood pressure, increased blood flow or flushing, dry mouth and loss of appetite, hyperactive peristaltic sounds, weakness or tightness in legs, persistent blurred vision and urinary frequency. Except for the visual difficulties, the other symptoms were at least found to be reversible with adequate physostigmine treatment. Three-dozen individuals who underwent the tests still complain of aftereffects including the birth of abnormal children who are mentally deficient. The volunteers themselves suffer memory lapses, hallucinations and, not surprisingly, emotional problems.<br />
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            Federal snoops have used one-way mirrors to investigate and record sexual activity in San Francisco. Both the FBI and the CIA have been used in covering up and disseminating false information.<br />
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            Functions of the FBI or the local police who are responsible for protecting all Federal installations have been performed by the CIA, a violation of their CIA charter and resulting in actions against American citizens. CIA directors have always worn two hats as heads of the intelligence community and as heads of their own agency. The supra-directorship of the American Intelligence Community was enhanced by President Ford on paper when he made the CIA Director overall head of the intelligence community. At that time the Director would tell the Secretary of Defense what to do with his intelligence agencies. Military intelligence, including the Defense Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency and the intelligence arms of the three services have more than five times as many people, and more than ten times the budget of the CIA and State Department intelligence service combined.<br />
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            You should not delude yourself that Cabinet Officers appointed by the President have any real power. Commenting on his official title as Assistant Secretary for Defense for Public Affairs, Thomas B. Ross said, “I’m in charge of 300-plus people inside the building (Pentagon) and 3,000 public information people worldwide and a budget of $50 million, yet I can fire exactly two people, my civilian deputy and my secretary.” What we get for $50 million is debatable.<br />
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            The CIA’s Science and Technology Directorate’s annual budget was one hundred million dollars per year. The Directorate of Science and Technology of the CIA includes the Office of Electronics, the Office of Special Projects, and the Office of Computer Services. Overruns are funded largely by the Air Force which underwrites the national overhead reconnaissance effort for the entire U.S. intelligence community. The projected FY ‘81 budget included a research and development figure for the Department of Defense of $16.565 billion, forty-six percent of the total national Research and Development budget. Obviously with this kind of funding, many universities and industrial scientists work for the Department of Defense. Many of our officer cadre have Ph.D.’s. They represent a technological-military elite and work with the university, industry, and think tank personnel; many of them who have security clearance are not allowed to talk to you or me. Our armed services have sufficient money and instrumentation for national defense, and unlimited snooping, at home and abroad.<br />
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            Several hundred satellites in space give us most of our early-warning detection of an enemy attack. Much of our communications intercept capabilities, our ability to intercept exotic new radars in space are also relayed by satellite. A hundred percent of our ability to predict the weather is now in space. Most of our ability to navigate submarines and ships and aircraft will soon be based there. Theoretically the satellites make it almost impossible for secret war preparations and thus keep the peace. This lack of privacy between nations extends to individuals.<br />
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            The U.S. has more than a dozen satellites watching the Soviet activities, taking high resolution pictures, collecting communications signals and penetrating darkness and camouflage sensing heat and color variations. A worldwide network of antennae eavesdrops on Russian communications ranging from telephone calls to sensitive military radio messages. Giant radars follow test flights of missiles and photograph reentry vehicles as they land in the Pacific or on the Kamchatka Peninsula.<br />
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            It has become difficult to know whether national defense is a defense or an offense. The National Reconnaissance Office, one of our country’s most expensive and sensitive intelligence organizations, is likely to be reviewed by the Reagan administration. NRO is known as a black organization; that is, none of its work is subject to public scrutiny.<br />
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            Despite a program lasting many years, U.S. intelligence complains that the Soviet Union might be ahead technologically and that the Soviets already have land-based laser capable of shooting down low-orbiting U.S. spy satellites. They fear that if the Soviets get their projected 11-ton space station aloft that they could put such a weapon in space.<br />
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            As a result of this the Defense Department awarded a $58.7 million contract for its own ASAT program to Vought Corporation of Dallas. The U.S. plan was not to use anything so crude as radar or infrared, but to put into space hunter-killer satellites by the mid-1980s armed with lasers that could vaporize metal in twenty billionths of a second.<br />
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            Navstar Global Positioning Systems (GPS) will tell anyone who tunes in exactly where he is anywhere in the world. It has been speculated that GPS can eventually be used on anything that floats, flies, runs, walks, crawls, or slithers. This is a method which could be used now by any intelligence agency to bug an individual.<br />
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            Another method of person-to-person communications through space without any intervening wires became possible when Elliot Gruenberg at IBM came up with a retro-directive oscillating loop for communications instead of a conventional transmitter-receiver. Called Synapz and manufactured by Broad-Com, Inc. of Cos Cob, Connecticut, its electronic mirrors in the form of antennas send a microwave signal back where it came from and leads to two-way TV without cable. Retro-directive arrays across the country would use atmospheric electronic noise to maintain a radio link with each other and to send messages from any point in the system to any other. Such a system, fixed on a human MEG could account for automatic feedback, plus visualization of any kind. Engineers reviewing Synapz for NASA say that it appears promising, and claim that even the experts are not entirely sure how it works. It was demonstrated to the Department of Defense and is to be used as a space link and alternative to the technology proposed by the Bell System to expand use of mobile telephone service nationwide. Somebody evidently understands very well how it works.<br />
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            At one time radio telescopes and optical telescopes were not the same thing. Now we have optical interferometers using laser which combine listening and optical ability, plus lenses that see any wave length of the electromagnetic spectrum including infrared for night vision and smog, gamma rays, ultraviolet, etc.<br />
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            Honeywell advertises their manufacture of everything form thermographic (meaning heat sensitive) body scanners to optical interferometers. The use of halogen compounds which have broad transmission capabilities for all types of things, from satellite weather monitoring to infrared night-vision systems through laser-assisted nuclear fusion for the conversion of energy. Honeywell’s research is partially funded by the Department of Energy and the Department of Defense. Honeywell advertises that their scientists worked with both university and commercial instrumentation experts to develop a holographic and shearing interferometer system. They say that combined with their previously developed video digitization/fringe analysis system this new interferometer provides a unique system for non-contact optical evaluation.]]></description>
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            <title>Re: electric minds</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Prologue <br />
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Reading minds at a distance by deciphering the brain’s magnetic waves has been a project of the Advanced Research Projects Agency [DARPA] of the Defense Department for some time. Many educational and research institutions have contributed to its success with government funding. <br />
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            Published information indicates that DARPA scientists have learned to identify specific thought patterns through the interpretation of brain waves. These patterns reveal with up to ninety percent accuracy whether a person is: (1) puzzled or uncertain, (2) has made a decision, (3) is paying attention, (4) is observing colors or patterns, or (5) has lost concentration due to fatigue or boredom. <br />
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            Thought processes have been linked to the computer through Artificial Intelligence [AI]. The autocorrelated Cray, which does one hundred million calculations a second, is specifically designed for problem solving and can carry out biomedical experiments with the computer simulating the human effects. It takes only fifty billionths of a second for an element of data to enter and leave its memory. <br />
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            Using psychological interviewing techniques. AI has come up with programs which lead the intelligent human to believe that he is talking to another person, when he is actually carrying on a dialogue with a computer. Properly programmed, computers have the capacity to make judgments based on previous performance or experience, predict observed behavior, speech patterns and idiosyncrasies of thought. Computers also convert many types of signals to signs, codes, sound, music and video. Twenty years were spent by Russell Kirsch at the National Bureau of Standards’ Artificial Intelligence Laboratory teaching machines to make judgments called “image pattern recognition.” A well-instructed machine can look at variegated images like brain waves and make decisions concerning them. The marriage of computer programming and brain mapping has been published. To accomplish the wiring and plotting of the functions of the human brain was an incredibly complex task that could only have been accomplished by the invention of the computer itself. <br />
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            It is known that enough work has been done with large computers and wave averaging on the transmission of neural messages in the brain so that neural activity associated with the word “no” and the word “yes” can be identified whether it is said aloud or not. Near the speech center in the brain is an area that prepares neural messages that drive the muscles associated with speech. Actions of the tongue and mouth and other muscles involved in speech are quite different for these two words. The patterns of nerve signals that go out to make these two words are also unalike. The patterns are formed long before words reach the vocalizing level, and can be read and interpreted in advance of speech by a computer. Pattern recognition computers will read an answer even in a completely uncooperative subject, or specifically read his mind if the thought is mentally put into unspoken words. <br />
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            Speech is a motor activity which creates electrical signals traveling along neurons. With a computer, these weak signals can be read at a distance by a superconducting quantum interference device (SQUID), which almost completely eliminates environmental noise while magnifying the signal one thousand times over that read by previous technology. <br />
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            To read the mind, wave analyzers must deal with the complex oscillations of the brain in somewhat the same way that a prism separates the colors of a beam of light. The components of this complex wave are isolated by electronic circuits tuned to several frequencies. Statistical averages can be determined from many readings of the mind under investigation. From this information its versatility and repertoire of adaptive stratagems can be assessed and plotted. This frequency analysis of tactics can now be instantly known and evaluated by computer faster than men can think. <br />
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            Optical and electronic subsystems for spacecraft and artificial intelligence have been under development since 1955. Sophisticated biomedical sensors have been developed to use on animals at a distance without physical contact. The same equipment has been used to test environmental factors on human sensory organs. Laser is used in biomedical displays to pick up brain signals and convert them to sound and color or even music. With current laser techniques verbal and aural communication is possible between any two points on earth with video and via satellite. <br />
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            The human head is a target which gives off a magnetic field. Suppose that it is capable of being picked up and locked onto at a distance by a supersensitive sensor many times amplified by optics. Depending upon the kind of ray directed at the head the symptoms and sensations of the subject will vary. <br />
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            The carotid artery and the hypothalamus are easily reached through the thin wall of the ear drum by sonic and ultrasonic radio waves. Stimuli to this area can raise and lower blood pressure and body temperature. Sensations in other parts of the anatomy are similar to those caused by diathermy depending upon which brain signals are played upon. The subject is literally an instrument who may experience numbness, pain, pleasure, muscle jerks, spasm and stimulation of the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system. <br />
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            It is known that thoughts can be pulsed into the mind through the nervous system by microwaves. This has nothing to do with the auditory nerves. Scientists who have submitted themselves to this process report temporary loss of memory and disorganization of thinking processes. <br />
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            A subtle method of communication, laser, is used to deliver messages unheard by those close to the receiver. Depending upon the verbal messages received concurrently with physical stimulation, these technological developments become powerful tools combined with psychological techniques to shape, modify, direct, prevent and control human thought and behavior through interference with all known diurnal physiological patterns. Additionally, verbal messages may be delivered at the subliminal level during consciousness and during sleep, so that the subject is unaware that he is receiving them or that his dream sleep is being influenced. Words are emotional triggers. When the subject’s emotional triggers are analyzed he is put in the position of having his thoughts and actions controlled by other individuals. This is mind control. <br />
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            For at least the last four years every minute of my conscious and unconscious life had been invaded by investigators using state of the art technology. Recently on the “Today Show,” William Colby said that the CIA investigated a device which could read Brezhnev’s mind on his way to work. It is my contention that they not only investigated it but that they made it work. <br />
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            People have asked me, “What do these voices say?” They say, “We want to be your friends.” As in brainwashing they confuse the issue, and truth becomes obscure. Falsehoods seem reasonable. Indoctrination techniques resemble some techniques used in hypnosis. Like hypnosis they have a soporific effect, reiterating and repeating the same monotonous phrases. <br />
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            “What you do is up to you. You’ve got to believe in yourself.” This remark is made until you are not really certain whether you know what you want or can rely upon your own opinion. <br />
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            Pavlov said that a conditioned reflex can be worked out for every stimulus. In brainwashing, brain-changing results. Damage is done to the mind through drugs, hypnotism and other means, so that a memory of what actually happened can be wiped out and a new memory of what never happened inserted. The Voices, by interfering with sleep in a subliminal mode are able to stir up old memories and influence REM Sleep by vocal suggestion. They interfere with normal sleep patterns by inducing physical symptoms which result in jerks, cramps, irritation of the intestinal tract and skin, and in sexual arousal or sudden and unwanted awakening when rest is needed. All the subject is aware of is pain, discomfort, nightmares, unaccountable physical symptoms, fatigue and depression. At other times, he is euphoric with relief. <br />
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            As in brainwashing, the Voices try to install a feeling of personal satisfaction by making the individual feel that he is needed in some way. The message is combined with physical reinforcement. <br />
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            “We want you to feel good about yourself.” They specialize in uncertainty. You are always on an up staircase that is going down. <br />
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            “Dorothy, we don’t know what we are going to do with you.” This comes after occasions of rebuttal, rebellion and general recalcitrance. It may be accompanied by good humor or very unpleasant remarks and physical symptoms. <br />
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            In the beginning, although one is not incarcerated except mentally and environmentally, the subject feels dreadfully tired and worn out. Returning POWs describe it as being like an automaton or going about in a daze. <br />
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            The Voices use suggestive interrogation with desired answers implied in the wording. They alternate this with a barrage of denunciation and accusation to make you cringe. The more tired you are, the more it upsets you. They excavate the psyche for areas of sensitivity involving social attitudes, sex, marital and family relationships and feelings about self. Any vulnerability will do, and all the time, fatigue both physical and mental, is working for them. The more sensitive and reasonable the individual, the more vulnerable they are. Pushovers for indoctrinators are very intelligent but uneducated, especially the indecisive minds that always see some valid point in the other side's argument. <br />
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            The victim’s feeling is that his thinking is being directed. The brainwasher has been called a corticovisceral psychiatrist, able to interfere with the normal path that every human follows in life. Such a Voice directs or suggests to the subject a new route leading off in an entirely new direction. Conflicts arise in anyone between known emotional responses and those of which he is unaware and which are suppressed. No one actually knows or realizes what is going on in his own subconscious mind. The Brainwasher Voice is trained to increase such conflict and to manipulate these responses. <br />
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            A great effort is made to arouse guilt feelings. Failures to meet a standard of achievement or conduct are used frequently as guilt stimuli. A decided effort is made to uncover normal failings and to take advantage of them in order to hammer them into a guilt complex. No matter how guilt arises, it is necessary to the Voice Indoctrinator for projection purposes. <br />
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            The Brainwasher Voice continually attempts to sow doubt in the mind of the subject. Regardless of the strength of conviction of the individual so attacked, the moment doubt clouds the mind, it leads to tension. Tension is related to fear, and guilt also produces fear. <br />
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            They asked me, "What do you want lo do?" My answer was that I wanted to survive. Fear itself is an expression of unsatisfied need for survival and security. First reactions are nervousness, tension, apprehension and depression. They make the need for security and self-protection even more acutely felt. <br />
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            Fortunately for me none of this was done in a really controlled environment, yet my privacy in all things was gone and I was isolated from human intercourse because nobody could believe that the Voices I heard were anything but inventions of my subconscious. <br />
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            As a result of these artificially induced pressures including chronic fatigue, I was deprived of strength to combat repetitious suggestions and started to doubt my own thoughts and convictions. <br />
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            Suppose in this condition that ideas are suggested at a subconscious level, not positive suggestions used in department store tapes to prevent stealing, but destructive behavioral ideas that will result in a poorer self-image, lowered confidence, both physical and mental, and atypical behavior. The suggestions assume a symbolic significance to the individual. Suppose the assault on the mind, body and nervous system is continual over a twenty-four hour period seven days a week. In this state one begins to live in a realm of fantasies and false beliefs. In the hands of Brainwasher Voices and technologists with Space Age Tools, anyone is malleable. An illusory, surreal, invisible environment is created, real only to the victim. <br />
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            In a prison camp one can make up one’s mind not to listen. There are other prisoners. As a laser receiving station in your own home and environment one has to listen involuntarily and still try to act normally, perform tasks, drive a car and do routine things as much as possible. The incarceration is real, but unseen. <br />
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            The tools of mind attack include suggestion, mockery, fear, fatigue, deception and manipulation. As in brainwashing, the Voice sometimes begins with ideas and ideals with which the recipient can agree. The only relief from tension in this insidious process is laughter or drugs like sleeping pills and alcohol. The receiver forgets that he is the one who is suffering from fear, uncertainty, browbeating and the invasion of privacy in sex, toilet and social relationships. When he most fears for public performance and they let up, he feels grateful for no reason at all. <br />
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            All these things are known to government psychiatrists and psychologists. The government in question is the government of the United States of America. The events I recount began on a May weekend in 1978]]></description>
            <dc:creator>runnyooze</dc:creator>
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            <title>electric minds</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ How do you explain an invasion of privacy that is cleverly designed to sound like a common psychological disturbance? How do you explain to people without an understanding of human physiology that body movement can only occur when energy is converted to an electrical charge? <br />
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            When you turn on a light, electrons cross a gap. When you start your car, an electric spark crosses a gap. While doing this you are totally unaware that in your own body the common dollar exchange of the human energy system, ATP (adenosine triphosphate), is releasing electrons and thus being converted into physical energy for all bodily processes and movement throughout the electron transport system. Every time you move or think, electrons stream across a gap between neurons called a synapse. This stream is like an electrical current and can be measured in the laboratory. The electrical field that you generate is very weak and is measured in millivolts and gauss. <br />
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            The recent interest in Oriental acupuncture to prevent pain has helped lead to the use of electronic devices to aid the healing of bone with electrical current and to interrupt electrical signals that would cause pain if transmitted. The courts have defined death as the absence of electrical activity in the brain. Electronics, which has made this kind of monitoring possible, is the science of the development and application of devices and systems involving the flow of electrons in gaseous media and in semiconductors. <br />
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            It is very hard to imagine life, any kind of life, as simply an electrical system. Kirlian photography shows the electrical aura around a leaf. Children arc being trained by physicists and psychologists to see electrical fields around people. When we speak of people as magnetic we may be speaking a scientific truth. The magnetoencephalogram (MEG) is used in the laboratory to measure the magnetic field in gauss given off by the cortex of the brain. <br />
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            No motion is made by the human body without raising the so-called resting potential of nerve cells to an action potential voltage causing work. Stored in the double phosphate high energy bond of ATP, electrons are released to travel through the nervous system to activate muscles and are measured in millivolts, 1/1000 of a volt. ATP is what makes fireflies light up at night and accounts for the well-known shocking behavior of the electric eel. <br />
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            The electroencephalogram (EEG) and the electrocardiogram (EKG) are graphic representations of the brain and heart making waves. Recently in sports medicine, athletes have had their body patterns recorded photographically to show their muscular strengths or weaknesses and predict their probable degree of success. This method has also been used to predict the performance of race horses. <br />
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            Laser, a gas medium, is a natural extension of electronics. It is used in industry, acoustical recording, message transmission, and to read fingerprints even years after they have been left on a page. It is also used to identify horses from their chestnuts, the callosities on their legs. As an example of a technology that has been under development for some time we have to give credit for laser to Uncle Sam and you, the taxpayer. The National Standards Laboratory is busy making accurate new measurements because modern laser techniques are so precise that they have made the old ones obsolete. Laser is so fine-tuned that it is used for eye surgery. <br />
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            The brain has been under investigation since the 1800s and earlier, and its activity recorded since the 1900s. It should not be too surprising that all brain tissue is simply a transmitter of electrical activity and a resonator that receives vibrations. With the computer, different areas of the brain can be displayed on a TV screen and the various activities under study displayed in an assortment of colors. The nerve impulses themselves can be converted into digital code so that the computer can identify their source, and from the source determine which part of the human nervous system is involved.<br />
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            You cannot see human brain waves by looking at a human head. If that head, however, is attached in some way to a computer, you can look at the visual display and see the waves. Large, fast computers like the Cray outrace the mind of man when it comes to making concise, accurate, instantaneous measurements. Remote-sensing and over-the-horizon radars are commonplace. Remote sensing of animals without hurting the animal has been done. A powerful laser scanning can measure acoustics, density and the sound of electrical activity including the broadcast coming from the human ear. The human ear not only receives, but also sends out its own signals which can be picked up by a sensitive listening device like the laser. Once sounds enter the ear they interfere with each other and set up harmonic tones. <br />
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            The range of human behavior is almost unquantifiable but attempts have been made. The basic areas, according to Maslow, that must be taken care of first are sleep, food and sex and I would add to this the need for emotional security. You are most likely to be stressed when these areas are attacked. <br />
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            The effects of radio or microwaves of various kinds have been reported in scientific and lay literature. It is known that they can affect blood pressure, body temperature and mental states by reaching the hypothalamus through the eardrum which is in the closest contact to this master gland. We also know that astronauts can be monitored in space. We have already invented lenses that see in the dark and penetrate foliage and walls. Suppose that from a distance you could be influenced by electromagnetic or microwaves and be stressed by electrical shock, unexpected muscle spasms or contractions which could be made to occur in both voluntary and the involuntary muscles of your viscera. Suppose also that the intensity could be orchestrated to produce sensations from pleasure through pain. Suppose additionally that the stress is augmented by the surprise element and through subliminal, that is unconsciously heard, vocal suggestion. You, the subject, are in your own home, very possibly totally unaware of any kind of outside interference, until you are spoken to via laser.[Note:1] You might suddenly realize that you, a human being, had become an instrument. <br />
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            This type of operation, under development for some time by American intelligence, is called mind control. It is more ghastly than George Orwell could possibly have conceived because he never experienced it. <br />
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            Only a few people understand the interrelationships between our magnificent technological and medical accomplishments and the military-industrial complex. These few are hampered in their attempts at communication by involvement in their own fields and by security requirements. Knowledge proliferates at a doubling rate greater than every two years. What is currently known is quickly dated. If you are working you are running to catch up. If you are not working you may be bogged down in family and community affairs. <br />
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            We exist in our complexity, psyching ourselves with pseudoscientific games, psychological hype and a couple-of-hundred-years-old love affair with snake oil and cures from the fountain of youth. It is both the best of times and the worst of times. Our so-called freedom is mired down in bureaucracy, ruled by dated old men, and clutched by inertia, boredom and fatigue. <br />
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            When I started building by case, I only wanted to prove that what was happening to me was technologically possible. Although my proof is mainly circumstantial evidence, it is known that anything which appears in the marketplace has usually been under government development for quite a long time before it filters into public consciousness. <br />
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            Suppose you were motivated by a combination mind/body attack and suppose also that you were lucky enough or unlucky enough to have the intelligence and kind of background to sort the whole thing out. What would you do? <br />
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            This book is an attempt to explain what I believe has happened to me. Others will attribute my account to many other things. From my point of view this is a true story no matter how ridiculous or neurotically distorted it may seem. I know that it can be used against me. I believe that the story line was designed by the intelligence community to fit their disinformation program. The purpose of the book is simply to present the possibilities. Perhaps the computer-age youngsters who will have to cope with these futuristic developments will not be as upset as I was.]]></description>
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            <title>and then we come along</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Extract from Leading Edge International Research Journal #92<br />
The KSEO 4/26/96 Interview with Alex Christopher<br />
Author of Pandora's Box and Pandora's Box II<br />
Transcript 6/1/96 by Leading Edge Research Group [<a rel="nofollow"  href="http://www.cco.net/~trufax">www.cco.net</a>]<br />
Legend: DA (Dave Alan, Host) AC: Alex Christopher C: Caller<br />
Keywords: Montauk, Phil Schneider, deep underground Bases, Reptilians, New Denver Airport, Masonic influences, disappearing children, Queen of England buying up U.S. Property, New World Order, George Bush, Area 51, Dulce, MKULTRA, CIA, bribes to Denver officials, Germans and Americans working together in high-tech craft, U.S. disk possession since 1920's and possession of hundreds in 1952.<br />
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DA: My special guest tonight is Alex Christopher, author of Pandora's Box, an expose of the British instigation through Washington D.C. over the last 200 years. You thought you were free? This stuff has been going on forever. The idea was to make us perceive we were "free and independent", but actually we are still subject to the British Commonwealth. She has a lot of information here, and we are going to have to have her back again for more. I talked to her last night. Just a fascinating individual. She is going to talk about the Montauk Project and extraterrestrial influences, and more. So, Alex, where do you start?<br />
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AC: Somebody told me one time, start in the middle and go from there. If you want to, pick a subject and we'll start from there.<br />
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DA: Last night we talked about a few things. We talked about the Denver airport last night and what is really going on down there, and we talked a bit about the Montauk project and Al Bielek, and then we skipped around a bit about some of the things in Pandora's Box. You mentioned that the Queen of England has been buying up a lot of property in Colorado under a pseudonym. Why don't we start on the subject of the British.<br />
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AC: All right. The information, primarily, that is in Pandora's Box covers how the major corporations, railroad and banking concerns in this country were set up through a trust that was originally known as the Virginia Company, and there was a survivor to the massacre of the royalty in France during the French Revolution, Marie Antoinette and King Louis' son, the Dauphin, who survived and was smuggled out of France. The Dauphin went to the United States via England, where he signed a contract with the Virginia Company. He came here to help the businesses, especially banking, in the United States. The deal was that everything would remain under English control, or subservient to it, and that brings us right up to today, because we are still looking at everything falling under that trust system going back to the Crown of England. It is mind boggling to think that everyone in this country has been led to believe that the people in the United States had won independence from England, when in fact they never did.<br />
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DA: Well, look at President Bush, wherein two years ago he went to England and was knighted by the Queen. Where is that coming from? Is it that he was a faithful servant?<br />
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AC: You bet. All of them are doing the bidding, and it goes back to their secret societies and the establishment of the New World Order, which all leads back to the house of Windsor. There has been in this country for a long time a grooming process whereby people carry on the bidding of the Crown of England. That is one of the things the system involving the Rhodes Scholars was set up to achieve. Cecil Rhodes set it up to groom people for this task, to carry the United States into the New World Order. It appears, from what I have been able to find out, that the Crown of England has had this very skillfully planned for hundreds of years, and it could be possible that they have been privy to information that not many of us have been for a long long time about the chaos involving Earth changes that is coming. It is my understanding that England is not going to make it through the changes, so they set up a whole new Empire over here. That goes back to some of the things we discussed before, about lands being bought up in Colorado.<br />
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DA: Yes, the area is of a pretty high altitude, where it will be safe.<br />
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AC: Yes. Plus, all the symbolism that is apparent in the layout of the new Denver airport says that it is a control center for world control. There is a lot of "secret society" symbology at the airport. We started researching all of this to find out what it all means. It's all very scary. A gentlemen by the name of AL Bielek, who has been involved in some very unusual government projects in the past, told me that the Denver area is where the establishment of the Western sector of the New World Order will be in the United States. Little bits and pieces keep coming to me, confirming things I have not had confirmed before.<br />
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DA: Do you know of John Coleman?<br />
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AC: The Committee of 300?<br />
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DA: Yes. What's your take on that?<br />
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AC: I think his information is fantastic. If he had had the information that I put in Pandora's Box when I put that together, it would have have blown his mind. But, as far as I know from my standpoint, both sets of material go hand in hand, right down the line.<br />
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DA: Some of these things about the background of the British invasion, taking over the land over here while they let us think that we are running this country. How they had a bone to pick with the Czar of Russia years ago, how they have pushed the socialist revolution....like they say, the sun never sets on British soil. About some of these things on the airport in Denver. Would you mind discussing some of those things again?<br />
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AC: Well, the first thing that got my attention at the airport was the capstone that I saw in a photograph, that had a Masonic symbol on it. So, I really wanted to go to the airport and see that, because I thought it was very unusual.<br />
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AC: The capstone, or the dedication stone, for the Denver airport has a Masonic symbol on it. <br />
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A whole group of us went out to the airport to see some friends off and see this capstone, which also has a time capsule imbedded inside it. It sits at the south eastern side of the terminal which, by the way, is called The Great Hall, which is what Masons refer to as their meeting hall. And, on this thing it mentions the New World Airport Commission. I have never heard of that, have you?<br />
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DA: Never.<br />
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AC: It has a Masonic symbol on it, and it also has very unusual geometric designs. It depicts an arm rising up out of it that curves at a 45 degree angle. It also has a thing that looks like a keypad on it. This capstone structure is made of carved granite and stainless steel, and it is very fancy. This little keypad area at the end of the arm has an out-of-place unfinished wooden block sitting on it. The gentleman that was with me on the first trip out to the airport has since died. They say he committed suicide, but everything else tells me that this is no possible. No one can double-tie a catheter behind his own neck and strangle himself. I just don't think that is possible. But, his name was Phil Schneider, and he started blowing the whistle on all this stuff going on in the underground bases that he had helped build for years and years. He worked on the underground bases at Area 51 and Dulce, New Mexico, as well as several other places. Schneider told me that this keypad-looking area looked like a form of techno-geometry that is alien-oriented, and that it had something to do with a "directional system", whatever that meant, that functioned as a homing beacon to bring ships right into the Great Hall.<br />
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In the same general area on this capstone, there are some most unusual designs on the floor that are all Masonic in nature, which lead right back to the Black Sun<br />
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(Editor Note: See the page in LE#91 sent to us referring to this order, in terms of its connection with the Montauk experiments . According to Al Bielek, Schneider's father was a U-boat captain during the Nazi regime and who was also on the Eldridge in 1943 in a medical capacity), which goes back to Nazi symbology. See, the "secret societies" are supposedly into Sun worship. The Nazi's were into "Black Sun" worship, which connects with the idea of Saturn. Saturn and Satanism kind of go hand-in-hand.<br />
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Then, we have this system of murals at the airport that are the most grotesque things you've ever seen.<br />
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DA: What's on the murals?<br />
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AC: I say that that they are about what they plan to do to us, and the world as a whole, not what has happened or some fantasy. One of them that is very unusual has three caskets with dead people in them...<br />
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DA: That's part of the ritual connected with the Skull & Bones Club.<br />
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AC: Yes. There are evidently three groups of people that they would like to see dead. The first casket has what the artist told me was a Jewish-American child, a little girl, and she has the "star" on her clothes and a little Bible and a locket...<br />
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DA: Jewish lineage is passed through the female...<br />
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AC: Yes. Well, all these caskets depict women who are dead.<br />
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and the last casket has a black woman in it. <br />
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Now, normally I would not have thought too much about these murals if I had not done a lot of research. Even in the government documents I have run across gene-splicing discussions on how they would like to splice out specific races, and also whoever these people are do not like the Jewish people. This is just one of the murals, and these murals are huge.<br />
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This same mural depicts the destruction of a city and the forest,<br />
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and there is a little girl holding a Mayan tablet that speaks of the destruction of civilization. <br />
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There is a mural that depicts this "thing" standing over a city that looks like a green "Darth Vader",with a sword, that has destroyed the city. This character is huge, and there is a road depicted with women walking holding dead babies.<br />
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This same mural extends over to another mural which depicts all of the children of the world taking the weapons from each country on earth and giving them to a central figure which is a German boy who has this iron fist and anvil in his hand that is totally out of proportion to the child's body, beating the swords into plowshares.<br />
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I thought, well, this is very odd depicting a German child doing this. What all this symbology on the airport murals seems to convey is that not only do we have a secret society behind this, but that it is a German secret society behind this, working in the vicinity of this New World Control Center.<br />
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DA: It is interesting when you consider Operation Paperclip wherein all these Nazi's were brought to the United States to be groomed, financed, and basically brought back into power.<br />
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AC: Well, I know they're here, because I have seen them alongside the Americans in the more sensitive areas of the airport. But, these paintings are most disturbing and very unusual. When I first tried to contact the artist and talk to him about these murals, he told me that he was given guidelines on what to paint and put in the murals. When I showed up in his studio, I asked to see the guidelines for the last two murals he was working on, he suddenly went "brain dead" and said "of course, there are no guidelines." It took myself and two other people over eight months to figure out all the symbology that is embodied in these murals. It turned out that some of these are "trigger" pictures, containing symbology designed to trigger altered personalities of people that have been groomed in MKULTRA type programs for specific tasks that they have been trained to do in terms of something connected with Satanic rituals and mind control. I had one woman that called me out of the blue one night, and she was really disturbed about some information. She told me many different things that later turned out to be known MKULTRA triggers. Also, almost every aspect of these murals contains symbols relating back to secret societies. When you get the overall view of what they are talking about in these things, it is very very scary. It goes back to the Biodiversity Treaty, getting rid of specific races of people, taking over the world and mind control.<br />
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There is one picture in which every plant turns out to be mind-altering or poisonous, and all the animals are Masonic symbols used in literature in every country in the world.<br />
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It took a very long time to track all this stuff down and figure out what they're trying to say. The one way they tell stories is in pictures. It's right there in our face when you go into the airport. Most people look at them and say, "boy, those are crazy-looking pictures, what are they doing in this airport?"<br />
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DA: Now, you mentioned that underneath this airport it goes down many levels.<br />
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AC: Yes.<br />
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DA: Does the fact that all these underground levels are there have something to do with why it took so long for this airport to open?<br />
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AC: Well, the gentleman that I was dealing with, Phil Schneider, said that during the last year of construction they were connecting the underground airport system to the deep underground base. He told me that there was at least an eight-level deep underground base there, and that there was a 4.5 square mile underground city and an 88.5 square-mile base underneath the airport. It is very unusual that they would allot a 50 square-mile area on the surface at which to locate an airport in the middle of nowhere unless they really planned to use it for something very unusual later. There is a 10-mile, 4-line highway out to this airport, and there is nothing out there in between the airport and Denver. Not even a service station, at least in September 1995. The people in Denver are really upset with the fact that this airport went in the way it did.<br />
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There was this fellow who wrote a book in which he made the statement that they had a copy of an audio tape on which a Denver city official was talking with people from the CIA, and that he was paid 1.5 million dollars to allow the "airport" to be built, no matter what it took. It appears that there was a lot more interest in getting the airport built from just officials in the Denver area. They plan on using this facility for something else other than just landing planes.<br />
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DA: So, this guy got you down there to take a look at the underground?<br />
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AC: Well, he was invited to go along on the trip. I had a friend that actually got us down into the active area in the underground. It's very interesting down there. The baggage equipment area is very unusual. All the old luggage equipment that wouldn't work right doesn't look much different than the stuff that is working today.<br />
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DA: You were telling me that there are huge concrete corridors with sprinkers all along the ceiling. What are these sprinkler heads doing in a concrete bunker, pray tell?<br />
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AC: Well, this is the same question we asked. These shafts are huge and run along adjacent to the tramline on both sides. So, there are two of these huge shafts large enough to fit a two-lane highway in there. There are every few openings into and out of the tram shaft, but at the end of them, going out into this 50 square miles of acreage is a huge steel door that would facilitate the entrance of a great big truck. It could be used for almost anything, but what is so unusual about it is that about every five or six feet on the ceiling, across almost the full width of the area, there is a pipe with three or four sprinkler heads. This goes on for the full length of the thing, which must be close to a mile. There are two of these shafts, and I got a picture in the mail the other day which was very unusual that was taken by someone on board the tram in the shaft. The picture appeared to actually show ghost-like figures on it. It was a mother and a baby wrapped in a blanket. When you are down in that concrete shaft, both times I got nauseated. There are some very unusual vibrations down there. Now, the tunnel shaft that the tram comes in on could connect up with an underground tunnel coming in from five buildings that were built and buried. There was already a 40 foot diameter tunnel there when construction started. Those five buildings they built 3 1/2 years ago, and suddenly they said ,"oops, these are in the wrong place" and buried them, along with a very high-tech runway that is buried under about four inches of dirt. It seems insane that they would build a very technical building complex with interlocking tunnels and a tunnel going back to the tram tunnel at the concourse, and then state that they built it in the "wrong place" and cover it up with dirt. I don't believe that people are that stupid.<br />
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DA: No. Projects like that are strategically planned, and they just don't go and do that.<br />
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AC: Some of these five buildings are 150 feet tall. There is one 78 feet tall, and one that is 126 feet tall. They are all in that range. From this complex there is a shaft that runs to concourse "C". When they started this project, as I said, there was also a huge 40 foot diameter shaft brought in there from somewhere that was off-limits to the work crews. It was there when the project was started. And, everybody that worked on these projects....there were five different contractors, and the people on each contracted crew did not interact with the other ones. When the project was done, everyone was fired and sent away.<br />
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DA: You would think that during this massive construction they would not be able to keep this stuff secret.<br />
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AC: I think a lot of the people saw things that disturbed them so much that they would not talk about it. I know several people who worked on the project that managed to find their way down into the depths, probably close to the deep underground base, and saw things that scared them so badly they won't talk about it. I interviewed a few of the former employees on these construction crews that worked out there on these buildings that ended up buried, and they are afraid to talk. They say that everybody is real nervous about it, and they decided to tell some of the secrets that they knew, but they don't want anybody to know who they are. So, I can tell you that it is a very unusual and spooky type of place, and if you are a sensitive person you get nauseated as soon as you enter the perimeter of the airport. Especially when you go down underground. You become very nauseated and nervous. There is also so much electromagnetic flux in the area that if you get out on the open ground around the airport, you will "buzz".<br />
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DA: Where is this flux field coming from? What do you think the purpose of this is?<br />
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AC: I think that its coming from some kind of underground electrical system, because where we were there were no power lines, and the whole place was just buzzing with this free energy floating around. Very unusual. In addition, there are areas in the underground that have chain-link fences with the barbed wire tops pointed inward, like they were there to keep people in, not keep people out. All these areas are there, acres of it, and none of it is in active use. There are many terraced areas that go down. One area in particular is forbidden to go into unless you are wearing a biological protective suit. They say there is some kind of "unidentified biological fungus" in that area that attacks people's lungs.<br />
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DA: Hmmm. Some kind of way to hide something that is in this area?<br />
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AC: Well, we think that area is one that leads to deeper levels underground at the airport. But, it is surrounded by a chain-link fence and you can't get in there. We think this is the area that one of the electricians kind of stumbled into that went down about six levels below the fourth level, and ran into some really weird stuff. He won't talk about any of it now.<br />
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DA: Real weird stuff.<br />
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AC: Also, at the airport there are what look like miniature nuclear reactor cooling towers, and I don't understand why they are there. When people asked, the reply is that they are part of the ventilation and exhaust system. Ventilation and exhaust from where?<br />
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AC: I think it is all hooked up to the deep underground.<br />
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DA: They say that this place looks like some underground "holding area"...somewhat like a cattle lot....a place that could hold thousands of people. The gates, fences....<br />
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AC: The luggage transport vehicles move on a full-sized double-lane highway, and along this highway are chain-linked areas that could be used for holding areas. I don't understand why they built this the way they did, unless they planned to use it for something like that in the future.<br />
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AC: If Phil is right, and all this hooks up to the deep underground base that he was offered the plans to build back in 1979, and that what this other man told me in private that there is a lot of human slave labor in these deep underground bases being used by these aliens, and that a lot of this slave labor is children. He said that when the children reach the point that they are unable to work any more, they are slaughtered on the spot and consumed.<br />
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AC: Aliens. Again, this is not from me, but from a man that gave his life to get this information out. He worked down there for close to 20 years, and he knew everything that was going on.<br />
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AC: They specifically like young human children, that haven't been contaminated like adults. Well, there is a gentleman giving out a lot of information from a source he gets it from, and he says that there is an incredible number of children snatched in this country.<br />
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AC: And that these children are the main entree for dinner.<br />
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DA: How many Draconians are down there?<br />
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AC: I have heard the figure of 150,000 just in the New York area.<br />
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AC: Yes. In some kind of underground base there.<br />
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AC: I have seen them face to face.<br />
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DA: You have?<br />
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AC: Yes. From some information that has been put out by a group or team that also works in these underground bases that is trying to get information out to people that love this country, there is a war that is going on under our feet, and above our heads, that the public doesn't know anything about, and its between these alien forces and the humans that are trying to fight them.<br />
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DA: What other types have you seen?<br />
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AC: The ones that I have seen are the big-eyed Greys and the Reptilians.<br />
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DA: What do these Reptilians look like?<br />
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AC: There are three different types.<br />
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DA: Can you tell us how you happened to come into contact with them?<br />
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AC: When I lived in Florida in Panama City, at that particular time the Gulf Breeze sightings were going on, and the area was virtually a hotbed for strange events. I had neighbors that were into watching UFOs and getting information about them. One night about 2:30 am, my neighbor called me and was absolutely frantic, and wanted me to come over there. I ran over there and went in the front door, and she and her boyfriend, who is a commercial airline pilot, were in the living room scared out of their wits. I looked over at her, and her eyeballs are rolling back in her head and she was passing out and sliding down the wall. Her boyfriend was trying to tell me what was going on, and I was feeling this incredible energy that felt like it was trying to penetrate my head. So, I grabbed both of them and pulled them both outside, where we stood for a while and talked...<br />
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DA: Some people would say that this is a case of demon possession...<br />
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AC: Oh, no. There was radiation in the room. The next day all of her plants were dead. So, there was a massive amount of energy focused on that room. Anyway, after about an hour had passed, we had discussed what went on and decided to go back into the house. They had both been in bed and were pulled out of their bed during the night. All they remember is a flash of light in their faces and the next thing they know they're both scared to death. But, when we went back into the house, I noticed that the man had a small palm-print on his side with fingers that must have been 10 inches long, with claw marks on the end that were burned into his side. The next day, that area was so swollen that he could not touch it. I have video pictures of these things on his side. The prints were there from someone bending down from behind him and pulling him out of bed. They had been making love, and somebody lifted him off of her and left these burns there.<br />
<br />
Anyway, they were both totally flipped out. I finally got them calmed down enough to let me go home. I went home and went to bed. The next thing I know, I woke up and there is this "thing" standing over my bed. He had wrap-around yellow eyes with snake pupils, and pointed ears and a grin that wrapped around his head. He had a silvery suit on, and this scared the living daylights out of me. I threw the covers over my head and started screaming....I mean, here is this thing with a Cheshire-cat grin and these funky glowing eyes...this is too much. I have seen that kind of being on more than one occasion.<br />
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DA: What else can you say about it?<br />
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AC: Well, he had a hooked nose and he was very human looking, other than the eyes, and had kind of grayish skin. Later on in 1991, I was working in a building in a large city, and I had taken a break about 6:00, and the next thing I knew it was 10:30 at night, and I thought I had taken a short break. I started remembering that I was taken aboard a ship, through four floors of an office building, and through a roof. There on the ship is were I encountered Germans and American's working together, and also the Grey aliens, and then we were taken to some other kind of facility and there I saw the reptilians again ... the one's I call the "baby Godzilla's", that have the short teeth and yellow slanted eyes, and who look like a veloci-raptor, kind of.<br />
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DA: So, why would these people pick on you?<br />
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AC: Well, I found one common denominator in the abduction, and it keeps on being repeated over and over again. I deal with lots of people who have been abducted, and the one common denominator seems to be the blood line, and it's the blood line that goes back to ancient Indian or Native American blood lines.<br />
<br />
DA: Are these people looking for genetic material?<br />
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AC: Well, I don't know if it is a very ancient blood line that they want to try and stop, or what the reasoning is. I know that I was asked some questions, like how I was capable of doing some of the psychic things I was doing at the time. But, it is very unusual to find anybody that remotely thinks they have been taken that doesn't have the Indian blood line, somewhere.<br />
<br />
DA: Now, after that experience, what happened after that? What were some of the other times you saw some of these beings?<br />
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AC: Well, at that facility I saw the almond-eyed Greys, but the thing that sticks in my mind are the beings that look like reptiles, or the veloci-raptors. They are the cruelest beings you could ever imagine, and they even smell hideous. There were a couple of very unusual areas down there where I was taken which looked like cold storage lockers, where these things were in hibernation tubes, and that is about all I remember, other than seeing some black helicopters and little round-wing disk type aircraft. At that point, the memory seems to be cut off and I can't tap throught to anything else. They're there, folks.<br />
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DA: Maybe I'll open up some phone lines, and maybe we'll talk about Al Bielek and some things you discussed with him. Are you open to that?<br />
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AC: Sure.<br />
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Caller (C): On those ships where the Germans and Americans were, did they have any kind of an insignia on their uniforms?<br />
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AC: Yes, they did. I have been told that the organization is called "The Black League" by people that might know. A blue triangle with a red-eyed black dragon, with a circle around it. It was very unusual. There's another woman that has written a book about an encounter she had in Fort Walden. I met her some years back, and we were talking about things we've seen. She also talked about this strange insignia. She and I both sat down and drew what we saw, and they were virtually carbon copies of each other. (Editor Note: See the symbol on the shirt sleeve of the Israeli soldier comforting the Rabin's daughter at his funeral in Israel, shown in Newsweek 11/20/95. Winged serpent similar to that seen by Herbert Schirmer and reprinted in Crux #4 in 1989. The comparison will be shown in Leading Edge #92).<br />
<br />
In the book Cosmic Conflict, the author talks about the ancient city that was uncovered by the Germans before World War II, and tells about their effort to revive some frozen humans they found in this underground city, and that the true humans couldn't be revived, but the ones that could be revived were in fact reptilians in disguise, and these reptilians have the capability to do shape-shifting and create a holographic image so when you look at them you see a human, but under that there is a human there. It's like a "deja vu" of the movie They Live. Cathy O'Brien, who wrote Trance-Formation in America, revealed that George Bush projected a hologram that he was a reptilian .... real crazy stuff, but if this technology that they possess is there, why couldn't a race do something like that ... these people that are working with our government?<br />
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C: I believe that, but I do believe that these are demons that manifest themselves as alien beings, and that this has been going on for a long time...<br />
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DA: Demons? Who are demons?<br />
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C: Fallen angels.<br />
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DA: The reptilians look like that anyway. All the scriptures around the planet talk about serpent beings. What do you think, Alex?<br />
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AC: Well, I think that's pretty much what the bottom line is. Also, they talk about the rapture...<br />
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DA: It could be like an alien "thanksgiving".<br />
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AC: These people that have done all this research and are part of the underground government are telling that the humans on this planet have been at war with these reptilian aliens for thousands of years. At one point, things got so hot on the planet, like it is now, aliens took on this holographic image and infiltrated the human race in order to take it over and undermine it, just like this New World Order is doing right now. They're saying that the same thing happened to civilization on Earth before, and that the humans before actually had the capability for interplanetary travel, and that it was so bad here with the reptilians that they had to leave.<br />
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DA: I think that this has been going on for hundreds of thousands of years.<br />
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AC: Yes. What they are also saying is that these beings that are human-looking that are visiting our planet, at this time, trying to inform people what is going on, and guide them, are actually our ancestors that escaped the Earth before when it was under reptilian domination.<br />
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DA: What is your take on these crop circles?<br />
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AC: Oh, the crop circles that are the real ones are a type of geometric language containing some kind of information. There was one that was a Mandelbrot fractal. How do you fake that? They say that there are a lot of crop circles going on in the United States, and that the government shuts the information off about their occurrance.<br />
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DA: Canada and Australia as well.<br />
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C: It seems that we are having an increase in these encounters and sightings.<br />
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AC: Things are escalating at an incredible rate. I think a lot of these movies in the media are trying to get us softened up for what they plan to unleash on us.<br />
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C: So, in just a matter of years, they plan to bring it out and bring people to that airport?<br />
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AC: You know, Reagan said more than once that the only thing that would bring people together would be some kind of "outside force".<br />
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DA: Exactly, I remember that. He said that several times.<br />
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AC: I went to South Florida a couple of weeks ago and interviewed a man who had done research for 30 years, and oddly enough, he tapped into some of the same information I had, in that our government has had round-winged, saucer-type technology, high mach speed aircraft since the 1920's, and that in 1952 they had over 500 of these aircraft hidden in secret bases. Now, if they had that in 1952, considering that military technology grows by 44 years for every year that goes by, what do you imagine they have now, 44 years later, after technology has advanced the equivalent of 1,936 years?<br />
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C: About two or three months ago, I went to do a business transaction with a fellow I have known for about two or three years, and one of his relatives had just died -- we were pretty close, and we got into a deep conversation about stuff, and he told me he worked in an underground military base in Colorado. I asked him what he did there, and he said that if he did he'd have to kill me. I told him I didn't want to know. I was really shocked, and didn't know what to think of it, and then I heard this program. I want to know what your guest thinks about the Iron Mountain report the government did in the 1960's, and if that ties into the Nazis and the American's working together. Also, this would also explain George Washington's vision where this country was invaded from the East by a foreign power, and then when all hope seemed lost, the angels of God would come down and the nation would be saved. Anyway, I never could understand why angels of God would come down and fight with men to save a puny little country that has been around for only 200 years, but in this scenario, there seems to be some explanation here.<br />
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AC: Yes, the Iron Mountain report. The guy that claims to be the author of it now claims that it was nothing more than a joke, but for a joke, it seems to be following the time line to the hilt, so I think it was something that made its way out and they are trying to cover that up. Everything that was in that report is happening in great detail right now.<br />
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C: Do these reptilians bleed if they get shot?<br />
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DA: Has anybody ever killed one?<br />
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AC: Phil Schneider did. He killed several of them. When he was involved cutting some tunnels at Dulce, he was lowered down a shaft and ended up in a nest of these things. He and some of his team were in there, and some of the Delta Force came in. They had a shootout with these aliens, and he killed a couple of them before they got a round off and shot him with some sort of laser weapon. He used to pull his shirt up and show me where they darned near blew a hole in his chest with whatever kind of laser weapon they were using.<br />
<br />
DA: So they can be killed, then?<br />
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AC: Yes, if you have the drop on them. They die just like everyone else. They consist of mass just like we do.<br />
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C: It is interesting that high officials in the Clinton administration, like Cisneros, were deeply involved with the construction of this airport. Also, Pat Shroeder. All of a sudden, she's leaving office. It's like a lot of people who have been involved with this airport are leaving town. Also, there is a fellow by the name of Rodney Stitch, who writes about the total corruption in the Denver area. Does this tie in with what you were talking about?<br />
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AC: Well, he is the one that wrote the book Defrauding America. He said that they had a tape of a CIA agent paying off the mayor of Denver to get the airport built. There is just so much corruption. They are selling the good American people out. We have some of our own people selling the rest of population out for a few pieces of gold.<br />
<br />
DA: What about Al Bielek and how what he is saying may relate to this?<br />
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AC: I met Al about a year ago.<br />
<br />
DA: Who is Al Bielek?<br />
<br />
AC: He claims to be one of the ones who jumped overboard off the Eldridge when it went into hyperspace during the Philadelphia Experiment. He actually travelled forward in time, and asked the people that he encountered there what happened in his future. At that time, he was given the information about the New World Order and that Denver was the location for the NWO Western Sector, and that Atlanta was supposed to be the control center for the Eastern Sector. Can it be that the fact that the Olympics is supposed to be in Atlanta is part of a scenario? All the highways in Atlanta have high-security monitoring cameras just like those seen in some of the underground areas at the Denver airport. These monitors are all over the interstate highway and on many of the streets in Atlanta. Last week, I was talking to a fellow who was actually working on the Olympic project, in terms of the main stadium, and he said that they're gearing up for the possibility of terrorist acts. Do they know something we don't know?<br />
<br />
DA: Maybe they want to go ahead and perpetrate something again. One thing after another. It's all part of their scenario. Let's take a call.<br />
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C: Yes, I would like to thank you and your guest for coming foward with this information. And, as unbelievable as it is for the audience, I personnally have had first-hand experience with some of this stuff. Not so much with the reptilians, but when you talk about this technology base that the government is working with, my own encounters with this technology were basically terrifying, in that I didn't know what was going on. I got indoctrinated into some type of mind control program that was perpetrated on me. I was in the wrong place at the wrong time. It's amazing to me that this stuff is going on, and I know that it is frustrating to get people to wake up to this. I am a little nervous here. It runs a little deeper than just on a physical level of threat. I think a lot of this stuff is not just about suppressing our minds and will to resist the government. It's about getting our minds to the point to where we're so "droned down" that we have no chance of reconnecting with the source. I think this whole thing has to do with us on a soul level.<br />
<br />
AC: That's right. That's what it's all about. It's the last great adventure to control the space between our ears and to eventually take over our souls. I also think that a lot of the people who have sold us out and are involved in this have no idea what the BIG picture is, because it is all so compartmentalized. This is a very demonic scenario that is going on here.<br />
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C: That is why I will spend the rest of my days trying to bring this to people's attention. My take on it is that if you don't make the cut when all of this comes to a climax, and they do achieve that ultimate control, your chances of reconnecting are delayed indefinitely.<br />
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AC: Well, you know, we have some beings that are waiting for people to ask, en masse, for help, and they are there, and they will help, but we have to ask for help, because they honor free will.<br />
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C: My previous experience was pretty nightmarish, but I did get through this, and my perspective on God is a gift.<br />
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DA: Alex, how do we get ahold of your book, Pandora's Box?]]></description>
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            <title>Doctor J in Da house</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Operation Mind Control <br />
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Walter Bowart, New York: Dell Publishing Co., 1978 <br />
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            Please keep fearfully in mind that the astonishing information published in this seminal work of investigative reporting, concerning avenues taken to decision and execution by our secret police to fracture or dissolve human minds, then to operate those minds as a small boy, might operate a Yo-Yo, for purposes of counter-intelligence military ?efficiency,? and the destruction of democratic institutions, was drawn directly from federal records and from official laboratory archives of the highest educational purpose?as well as from the reviving memories of those who had already undergone the dehumanizing process. ... [p. 14]<br />
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            Zombie is a quaint, old-fashioned folklore word but its meaning becomes obscene when our children?s minds are being controlled ... [p. 17][Note:1]<br />
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            It may have been the biggest story since the atom bomb. The headline, however, was small and ignored the larger issue. ?Drug Tests by CIA Held More Extensive Than Reported in ?75,? said the New York Times on July 16, 1977. ...<br />
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            The testing of drugs by the CIA was just a part of the United States government?s top-secret mind-control project, a project which had spanned thirty-five years and had involved tens of thousands of individuals. It involved techniques of hypnosis, narco-hypnosis, electronic brain stimulation, behavioral effects of ultrasonic, microwave, and low-frequency sound, aversive and other behavior modification therapies. In fact, there was virtually no aspect of human behavioral control that was not explored in their search for the means to control the memory and will of both individuals and whole masses of people.<br />
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            The CIA succeeded in developing a whole range of psycho-weapons to expand its already ominous psychological warfare arsenal. With these capabilities, it was now possible to wage a new kind of war?a war which would take place invisibly, upon the battlefield of the human mind. ... [p. 19]<br />
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            The psychological techniques described in The Manchurian Candidate were to become a reality less than a decade after Condon saw his story set in type. As if Condon?s fiction had been used as the blueprint, a group of hypno-programmed ?zombies? were created. Some were assassins prepared to kill on cue. Others were informers, made to remember minute details under hypnosis. Couriers carried illegal messages outside the chain of command, their secrets secured behind posthypnotic blocks. Knowledge of secret information was removed from the minds of those who no longer had the ?need to know??they were given posthypnotic amnesia. ... [p. 21]<br />
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            The objective of Operation Mind Control during this period has been to take human beings, both citizens of the United States and citizens of friendly and unfriendly nations, and transform them into unthinking, subconsciously programmed ?zombies,? motivated without their knowledge and against their wills to perform in a variety of ways in which they would not otherwise willingly perform. This is accomplished through the use of various techniques called by various names, including brainwashing, thought reform, behavior modification, hypnosis, and conditioned reflex therapy. For the purpose of this book the term ?mind control? will be used to describe these techniques generically.*<br />
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            Mind control is the most terrible imaginable crime because it is committed not against the body, but against the mind and the soul. Dr. Joost A. M. Meerloo expresses the attitude of the majority of psychologists in calling it ?mind rape,? and warns that it poses a great ?danger of destruction of the spirit? which can be ?compared to the threat of total physical destruction . . .? ... [p. 23]<br />
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            ?I can hypnotize a man?without his knowledge or consent?into committing treason against the United States,? boasted Dr. George Estabrooks in the early 1940s.<br />
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            Estabrooks, chairman of the Department of Psychology at Colgate University, ... [p. 58]<br />
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            From one such think tank, the Rand Corporation, came a report [1949] ... [p. 67]<br />
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            ? ... a hypnotized subject will often accept and confess to an implanted memory as a real event in his own past life.? ...<br />
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            A number of experienced hypnotists had been able to train their subjects to perform ?in such a way that observers could not tell that the subject was in a trance or that he was acting under hypnotic suggestions.? ... [p. 69]<br />
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            To induce hypnosis in an unwilling subject, the report suggested any of three possibilities which were then well supported by research findings:<br />
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            1. As part of a medical examination, talk relaxation to the subject, thus disguising the hypnotic induction. For example, the person could be given a blood pressure test, told that he must relax completely in order to give an adequate test record, and then be given suggestions to go to sleep which would result in a hypnotic trance.<br />
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            2. Induce hypnosis while the person is actually asleep from normal fatigue. This could be done by simply talking softly into the sleeper?s ear.<br />
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            3. Use injections of drugs to induce hypnosis. The hypnotic drugs would relax the subject and put him in a ?twilight state? where the subconscious mind is very susceptible to suggestion.<br />
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            Subjects who refuse or resist the simple ?talking? methods of hypnotic induction could be given a few grams of paraldehyde or an intravenous injection of sodium pentothal or sodium amytal. ... Subsequently the subject could be allowed to practice carrying out posthypnotic suggestions. He could then be rehypnotized, still without his conscious cooperation, but this time without the use of drugs. ...<br />
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            Another important use of hypnosis ... the report said, would be the induction of amnesia: ?Once a deep hypnotic trance is achieved, it is possible to introduce posthypnotic amnesia so that [a subject] . . . would not know . . . that he had been subjected to hypnosis, to drugs, or to any other treatment.? ...<br />
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            The report then said, ?Conceivably, electroshock convulsions might be used as an adjunctive device to achieve somnambulism in a very high percentage of the cases. ... It is conceivable, therefore, that electroshock treatments might be used to weaken difficult cases in order to produce a hypnotic trance of great depth.?<br />
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            In 1958 the Bureau of Social Science Research (BSSR), a subcontractor to the Rand Corporation, issued a ?technical report? on hypnosis to the air force ...<br />
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            ?it is conceivable . . . that these techniques could have been used and covered up so successfully that they might be impossible to recognize . . .? ...<br />
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            All of these techniques, involving drug-induced hypnosis and electroshock convulsions, were eventually developed and used to reduce some of our own citizens to a zombie state in which they would blindly serve the government. Regardless of the Constitution and the laws which supposedly protect the individual against government coercion, ?zombies? were covertly created to do the government?s more unsavory bidding. Such ?zombies? asked no questions about the legality of their assignments. Often their assignments were never consciously known. And if they were ever questioned about their own actions, amnesia protected them from self-incrimination. ... [p. 70-73]<br />
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            In 1951, a former naval officer described ?a secret? of certain military and intelligence organizations. He called it ?Pain-Drug-Hypnosis? and said it ?is a vicious war weapon ... The extensiveness of the use of this form of hypnotism in espionage work is now so widespread that it is long past the time when people should have become alarmed about it . . .? ... [p. 75]<br />
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            Mind control arranges that ?slaves? of the intelligence community?witnesses, couriers, and assassins?are ?protected? from their own memories and guilt by amnesia. These ?slaves? may be left alive, but the knowledge they possess is buried deep within the tombs of their own minds by techniques which can keep the truth hidden even from those who have witnessed it. It is the ultimate debriefing, the final security measure short of assassination. ... [p. 148]<br />
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            Jos? Delgado was a neurophysiologist at the Yale University School of Medicine. By 1964, ... he had already been experimenting with electronic stimulation of the brain (ESB) for nearly two decades. His work, supported by the Office of Naval Research, ... [p. 250]<br />
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            A number of government agencies were actually at work on projects similar to Delgado?s, and through these projects the cryptocracy had gained the technology for direct access to the control of the brain and through it, the mind. ... [p. 251]<br />
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            ESB, however, used in conjunction with psycho-surgery and behavior modification, offered unlimited possibilities. After experiments on laboratory animals met with success, human experimentation was enthusiastically undertaken in quest of the most reliable and absolute method of remote control of the mind. ... [p. 253]<br />
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            ESB has, meanwhile, been strikingly successful in other areas. It has been used to modify mental mechanisms, to produce changes in mood and feelings, to reinforce behavior both positively and negatively. It has been used to activate sensory and motor regions of the brain in order to produce elementary or complex experiences or movements, to summon memories, and to induce hallucinations. It also has been used to suppress or inhibit behavior and experience and memory?outside of the conscious control of the owner of the brain. ... [p. 256]<br />
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            And, in 1974, the first victim of Parkinson?s disease treated by ESB walked gracefully out of a San Francisco hospital under his own power, thanks to portable ESB. He had a ?stimoceiver? implanted in his brain ... The ?stimoceiver? which weighed only a few grams and was small enough to implant under his scalp, permitted both remote stimulation of his brain and the instantaneous telemetric recording of his brain waves. ... [p. 256-257]<br />
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            And by the late 1960s, the ?remote control? of the human brain?accomplished without the implantation of electrodes?was well on its way to being realized.<br />
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            A research and development team at the Space and Biology Laboratory of the University of California at the Los Angeles Brain Research Institute found a way to stimulate the brain by creating an electrical field completely outside the head. Dr. W. Ross Adey stimulated the brain with electric pulse levels which were far below those thought to be effectual in the old implanting technique. ... [p. 257]<br />
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            In 1975 a primitive ?mind reading machine? was tested at the Stanford Research Institute. The machine is a computer which can recognize a limited amount of words by monitoring a person?s silent thoughts. This technique relies upon the discovery that brain wave tracings taken with an electroencephalograph (EEG) show distinctive patterns that correlate with individual words?whether the words are spoken aloud or merely subvocalized (thought of).<br />
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            The computer initially used audio equipment to listen to the words the subject spoke. (At first the vocabulary was limited to ?up,? ?down,? ?left,? and ?right.?) At the same time the computer heard the words, it monitored the EEG impulses coming from electrodes pasted to the subject?s head and responded by turning a camera in the direction indicated. After a few repetitions of the procedure, the computer?s hearing was turned off and it responded solely to the EEG ?thoughts.? It moved a television camera in the directions ordered by the subject?s thoughts alone! ... [p. 258]<br />
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            While Dr. Reed conceded that it was ?conceivable that thoughts could be injected? into a person?s mind by the government, he indicated that he did not believe it had already been done. ... [p. 259]<br />
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            Typically, the scientists have not been vigilant enough, for the cryptocracy already has developed remote-controlled men who can be used for political assassination and other dangerous work, ... [p. 260]<br />
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            In 1967 a writer named Lincoln Lawrence published a book ... [Were We Controlled? presented] a sophisticated technique known as RHIC?EDOM ... Radio Hypnotic Intra-Cerebral Control?Electronic Dissolution of Memory. ...<br />
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            ?Under RHIC, a ?sleeper? can be used years later with no realization that the ?sleeper? is even being controlled! He can be made to perform acts that he will have no memory of ever having carried out. In a manipulated kind of kamikaze operation where the life of the ?sleeper? is dispensable, RHIC processing makes him particularly valuable because if he is detected and caught before he performs the act specified . . . nothing he says will implicate the group or government which processed and controlled him.? ...<br />
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            ... according to Lawrence, ... during the operation a small electrode was implanted inside ... [the person?s] mastoid sinus. The electrode responded to a radio signal which would make audible, inside ... [the person?s] head, certain electronic commands to which he had already been posthypnotically conditioned to respond. ...<br />
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            In 1975 the RHIC-EDOM story surfaced again. ... The journalist, James L. Moore, said that the papers in his possession described the details of ?a military technique of mind-control called Radio-Hypnotic Intra-Cerebral Control?Electronic Dissolution of Memory.? ...<br />
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            According to Moore, in the initial (RHIC) stage of programming the ... [person] is put into a deep hypnotic trance, and conditioned to go intro trance at the sound of a specific tone. ?A person may be placed under this control with or without his knowledge, programmed to perform certain actions and maintain certain attitudes? whenever he hears the tone. ...<br />
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            The second part of the process, electronic dissolution of memory (EDOM), Moore said, ?... By electronically jamming the brain, acetylcholine creates static which blocks out sights and sounds. You would then have no memory of what you saw or heard; your mind would be a blank.? ...<br />
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            The claims of James L. Moore would sound fantastic were it not for the abundance of information to support the possibility of their validity. ... [p. 261-264]<br />
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            The cryptocracy has gone to absurd lengths to develop remote-controlled beings. Victor Marchetti revealed that the CIA had once tried to create a cyborg cat. He said that the Agency wired a live feline for sound in an attempt to use the pet for eavesdropping purposes. The cat was first altered electronically so that it would function as a listening device in areas where potential enemy agents would be discussing covert plots.[Note:2] ...<br />
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            After the electronic feline was at last ready for its assignment, it was turned loose on the street and was followed by a CIA support van loaded with electronic monitoring gear. ... [p. 273]<br />
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            The cryptocracy has used mind control for the past thirty years. It has used it on its own agents and employees, on enemies and friends alike. It has used it on thousands of Americans without their knowledge or consent. The CIA has programmed assassins and couriers by it. The CIA has even openly confessed to its conspiracy of mind control.<br />
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            Many people will believe that since the CIA has publicly disclosed its interest in mind control, it has now ceased its activities. The earlier CIA records, however, contain a number of termination dates for aspects of Operation Mind Control, yet evidence clearly suggests that it continued past those dates.<br />
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            In 1975, following the release of the Rockefeller Commission Report and the subsequent investigations by Senator Church?s and Congressman Pike?s committees, a public accounting was given and apologies were made. The intelligence community was reprimanded and small changes made. ... [p. 275]<br />
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            Recent history documents the fact that the CIA, as the whipping boy of the cryptocracy, covers up and routinely lies about its activities, heaping one lie on another, in a labyrinthine network of falsehood. It stretches credibility to believe, therefore, that the CIA and especially lower-profile members of the cryptocracy have terminated the mind-control research and development that has been going on for thirty years. ... If it has ceased, it has ceased only because it is obsolete and the new technology of radiation and electronic brain stimulation has given the cryptocracy a more powerful form of control. ... [p. 276]<br />
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            With advancements in electronic technology?increasingly sophisticated microphones, transmitters, and surveillance devices?the erosion of privacy becomes a mudslide. ... [p. 280]<br />
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            Mind control remains above United States law, making it a most attractive tool for clandestine operators. [p. 281]<br />
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[Note:1] Richard Condon, author of The Manchurian Candidate (1958), the forward to Operation Mind Control (1978).<br />
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* ... The mind control examined is this book is the control of one individual?s mind by another.<br />
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[Note:2] Jos? Delgado, M.D., conducted experiments (circa 1961) that attached an electrode to the eardrum (middle ear) of a cat. The device picked-up people's whispered conversations and transmitted them to a receiver for monitoring. The CIA attached their tiny radio implant to the cat's cochlea (inner ear).]]></description>
            <dc:creator>runnyooze</dc:creator>
            <category>HAND of rebellion DOOMSDAY Cult</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:06:56 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Hannah Montana Scandal!  Thanks, SATAN!!!</title>
            <link>http://www.christianfora.org/forum/read.php?21,14476,14479#msg-14479</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Hahaha!!  The things I miss!!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>chrys</dc:creator>
            <category>Rumpus Room</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 21:31:16 -0500</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.christianfora.org/forum/read.php?21,14476,14476#msg-14476</guid>
            <title>Hannah Montana Scandal!  Thanks, SATAN!!!</title>
            <link>http://www.christianfora.org/forum/read.php?21,14476,14476#msg-14476</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Fair warning, might be considered offensive to some.<br />
But it bes funny as hell. :)<br />
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            <dc:creator>Moriah Conquering Wind</dc:creator>
            <category>Rumpus Room</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 02:29:20 -0500</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.christianfora.org/forum/read.php?7,269,14400#msg-14400</guid>
            <title>Re: How to distribute development</title>
            <link>http://www.christianfora.org/forum/read.php?7,269,14400#msg-14400</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ I hack. Therefore I am.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Crazy Liz</dc:creator>
            <category>Task List, Bug Reports, Feature Requests</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:18:56 -0500</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.christianfora.org/forum/read.php?21,1001,14382#msg-14382</guid>
            <title>Re: Word Association</title>
            <link>http://www.christianfora.org/forum/read.php?21,1001,14382#msg-14382</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ dreads]]></description>
            <dc:creator>merryheart</dc:creator>
            <category>Rumpus Room</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:22:24 -0500</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.christianfora.org/forum/read.php?21,1001,14367#msg-14367</guid>
            <title>Re: Word Association</title>
            <link>http://www.christianfora.org/forum/read.php?21,1001,14367#msg-14367</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Rasta]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Moriah Conquering Wind</dc:creator>
            <category>Rumpus Room</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:33:20 -0500</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.christianfora.org/forum/read.php?82,14352,14352#msg-14352</guid>
            <title>Service Order for 20 August 2008 ev</title>
            <link>http://www.christianfora.org/forum/read.php?82,14352,14352#msg-14352</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ <strong class="bbcode">Call to worship:</strong><br />
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<strong class="bbcode">Opening</strong> <br />
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Leader: The Lord almighty grant us a quiet night and peace at the last. <br />
All: Amen <br />
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L: It is good to give thanks to the Lord, <br />
R: to sing praise to your name, O Most High; <br />
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L: To herald your love in the morning, <br />
R: Your truth at the close of the day. <br />
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<strong class="bbcode">Confession</strong> <br />
The confession is said responsively, first with the lector confessing and receiving the promise of absolution from the congregation, then with the congregation confessing and receiving the promise of absolution from the lector. [In our case, one member speaks for the congregation, so as not to clutter the chat.] <br />
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L: I confess to God Almighty, before the whole company of heaven, and to you, my brothers and sisters, that I have sinned in thought, word, and deed by my fault, by my own fault, by my own most grievous fault; wherefore I pray God Almighty to have mercy on me, forgive me all my sins, and bring me to everlasting life. Amen <br />
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R: The almighty and merciful Lord grant you pardon, forgiveness, and remission of all your sins. Amen <br />
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R: We confess to God Almighty, before the whole company of heaven, and to you, our brothers and sisters, that we have sinned in thought, word, and deed by our fault, by our own fault, by our own most grievous fault; wherefore we pray God Almighty to have mercy on us, forgive us all our sins, and bring us to everlasting life. Amen <br />
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L: The almighty and merciful Lord grant you pardon, forgiveness, and remission of all your sins. Amen.<br />
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<b>Responsorial Psalm</b><br />
Ps 23:1-3a, 3b-4, 5, 6<br />
<b>L:</b> (1) The Lord is my shepherd; there is nothing I shall want.<br />
<b>R:</b> The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want. In verdant pastures he gives me repose; Beside restful waters he leads me; he refreshes my soul.<br />
<b>L:</b> The Lord is my shepherd; there is nothing I shall want.<br />
<b>R:</b> He guides me in right paths for his name?s sake. Even though I walk in the dark valley<br />
I fear no evil; for you are at my side With your rod and your staff that give me courage.<br />
<b>L:</b> The Lord is my shepherd; there is nothing I shall want.<br />
<b>R:</b> You spread the table before me in the sight of my foes; You anoint my head with oil; my cup overflows.<br />
<b>L:</b> The Lord is my shepherd; there is nothing I shall want.<br />
<b>R:</b> Only goodness and kindness will follow me all the days of my life; And I shall dwell in the house of the LORD for years to come.<br />
<b>L:</b> The Lord is my shepherd; there is nothing I shall want.<br />
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<strong class="bbcode">Responsory </strong><br />
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L: Into your hands, O Lord, I commend my spirit. <br />
R: Into your hands I commend my spirit. <br />
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L: You have redeemed me, O Lord God of truth. <br />
R: Into your hands I commend my spirit. <br />
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L: Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit. <br />
R: Into your hands I commend my spirit. <br />
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<strong class="bbcode">Liturgical Prayers</strong> <br />
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L: Hear my prayer, O Lord; <br />
R: and let my cry for help come unto thee.<br />
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L: Keep me as the apple of your eye; <br />
R: hide me in the shadow of your wings. <br />
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L: In righteousness I shall see you; <br />
R: when I awake, your presence will give me joy. <br />
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L: Be present, merciful God, and protect us through the hours of this night, so that we who are wearied by the changes and chances of life may find our rest in you; through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen <br />
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<span style="font-size: large"><span style="color: red">&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <strong class="bbcode">OPEN PRAYER TIME</strong> (via online chat)</span></span><br />
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<strong class="bbcode">St Francis Prayer</strong> <br />
Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.<br />
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Where there is hatred, let me sow love; where there is injury, pardon;<br />
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where there is doubt, faith; where there is despair, hope; <br />
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where there is darkness, light; where there is sadness, joy; <br />
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O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled as to console; to be understood as to understand; to be loved as to love. <br />
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For it is in giving that we receive; it is in pardoning that we are pardoned; and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life. <br />
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<strong class="bbcode">Lord's Prayer</strong> <br />
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Our Father, who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy Name. <br />
Thy kingdom come.  Thy will be done, On earth as it is in heaven. <br />
Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, As we forgive those who trespass against us. <br />
And lead us not into temptation, But deliver us from evil. <br />
[For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen.] <br />
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<strong class="bbcode">Gospel Canticle</strong> <br />
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L: Guide us waking, O Lord, and guard us sleeping; that awake we may watch with Christ and asleep we may rest in peace. <br />
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R: Lord, now you let your servant go in peace; your word has been fulfilled. My own eyes have seen the salvation which you have prepared in the sight of ev'ry people: a light to reveal you to the nations and the glory of your people Israel. <br />
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L: Glory to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit; as it was in the beginning, is now, and will be forever. Amen <br />
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<strong class="bbcode">Benediction</strong> <br />
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L: The almighty and merciful Lord, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, bless us and keep us. <br />
R: Admen <br />
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<strong class="bbcode">Antiphony:</strong><br />
music tbd]]></description>
            <dc:creator>mnphysicist</dc:creator>
            <category>Compline Blog</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:32:24 -0500</pubDate>
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            <guid>http://www.christianfora.org/forum/read.php?105,13908,14349#msg-14349</guid>
            <title>Re: Composting</title>
            <link>http://www.christianfora.org/forum/read.php?105,13908,14349#msg-14349</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ <span style="font-size: small">Mmmmmm .... impromptu <i class="bbcode">t. gondii</i> colonies ....... nnghgnnhhghnnhghgh ...... <i class="bbcode">*writhe*</i></span>]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Moriah Conquering Wind</dc:creator>
            <category>Going Green</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:27:26 -0500</pubDate>
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