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repentime — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 10:24:15 -0500

Hello it is mine duty to inform you that we are somewhere on begin of the Tribulation in the phase where Anticrist is coming to power. He is now slowly putting his figures in position so when the time comes he will be revealed to the world. But we have about 2 or 3 years untill his revealing.

Now is not time to discuss about how i know this.... Stay focused this is battle between good & evil , psychological warfare.

1) If you realy believe in God and Evil you need to know how they want to bring you from the path to salvation. They are lying nonstop they never give up.

2) Say in your mind some word again and again over and ove until you got feeling about this thought this is your active thinking which they can not mime. When you stop and there pop up some thoughts this are your enemy that is the channel you need to ignore..

3) Cast out fantasy images out from your mind and not get influenced by your emotions.

4) You need to be mentaly preapred soldier because they leading you from the path to salvation and later , they will try to deny your faith in Jessus Christ and bring you in damnation.

5) Try to help people but if you see they just argue but don’t seek salvation or the truth they not listen , they rooted into this world and full of false teaching it have no sense to force them or erase what they believe now.

6) Don’t listen to anybody who claims to be prophet !!! God’s prophets are incognito and they will not say they are prophet’s or will not bring out books will not be on youtube they are like (special ops) they get their mission , come and do what god commands and it is not before but when it start. There should be some prophets later but they will proclaim not i am the prophet but Jessus Christ is the mesiah.

Wery Important what you need to do now !

1. Ask Holly Spirit in your prayer that he open your hearth and you can honestly REPENT and then think about your life and what you have done wrong how many times you have sin and disobeyed God’s 10 commands or done something bad. It must come honestly from your heart the sign you managed it should be like mental collapse honnestly REPENTED and you should feel relief on your hearth.

2. Then go and Baptize , if you can’t because you are already baptized renew your commitment to Jessus Christ.

3. Don’t violate any of the 10 commandements and if you do repent when you are aware off that you sined again and to be sure later renew again comitment to Jessus Christ.

4. Watch out now you are like target to most off the people and they will try to draw you down to SIN.

5. Go to church Satturday and Sunday you can not be sure which day is now the right one. You dont need to be there hours or to hear preaching it can be just between you and God praying 20 min should be enough the sin is to be aware of the day and to be in church and to be aware of god , and not working some scriptures write not sell or buy.

6. Don’t worship or knee down before anything except God , Jessus Christ and Holy Spirit.

THAT THEY SHOULD > HONESTLY REPENT FROM THEIR SINS > AND AFTER GET BAPTIZED OR RENEW THEIR COMMITMENT TO JESSUS CHRIST AND NOT SIN - NOT EVEN ONCE - MAYBE IT SEEMS TOO MUCH RADICAL BUT WE ARE NOW FIGHTING EVIL FOR OUR SALVATION THIS IS THE TIME TO HOLD ON IN OUR FAITH STEADFAST. AND SPREAD THE TRUTH SO PEOPLE OPEN THEIR EYES , HISTORY IS REPEATING BEFORE THEIR EYES AND THEY ARE BLIND. -REMEMBER NOAH-

AND TO ADMIN THIS IS NOT A JOKE DO NOT DEAR TO DELETE THIS POST I WARNED YOU.

First Holy Communion (no replies)

heal103 — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:44:24 -0500

Can someone explain to me why we Lutherans wait until 6th grade to receive First Communion while Catholics celebrate this Sacrement in 2nd grade?? Is there a reason? Is it just tradition? I keep getting asked this by my Catholic family members and friends. We attend so many Communions of 2nd graders and I keep getting asked why my daughter who is in 3rd grade hasn't had her Communion yet. We say, "she will in 6th grade" and they are always so puzzled and ask why?? I must admit, I don't know. What should I say next time I'm asked? Thanks!

Jonah (no replies)

Criada — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 07:21:53 -0600

Reading that last entry.. nothing has changed.
Except now the one person I trusted in r l has thrown me overboard like Jonah.

God... I can't believe that you would refuse to answer rayer because it comes from a sinner.... but, that seems to be what your people think,
So, whatever..I give up. There is no point trying to serve You if it makes things worse for others.
I know I am damned..I wanted to try to show others how to get out.. how to find Your love..
But I should have known that it wouldn't work, that my involvement would spoil it for everyone.
So.. what now?
I do still love You... Iwant to serve You, but it seems that even prayer isn't an option now,.
Where do I go now?

Aaarrrggghhh (no replies)

Criada — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:28:33 -0600

What is the point?
God, if You care, why don't You help? Why do you let all the hurt go on.. why do you let wonderful people get to the point of desperation where they can't go on?
Lord, I can't stand all the hurt and pain I see and hear.. how can You let it go on.. when You could help...
These are Your children... do something... or what is the oint? Why don't You answer their prayers?
I know I don't deserve it.. but Lord... please.. why let them suffer so much.. why not just make it right for them?
It's too late for Jura... and I know he's with You.. but.. why like that?
And what about Moriah, Sayrah, Tilly, Bellicus, Michelle, Katey, April..... so, so many others
Help them.. please,p leasse help them...
I don't understand... and I'm finding it harder and harder to believe.
I don't want to let You down... but I can't do this, lord.. i can't take all the pain and hurt.. and watch while You don't seem to hear....
I know it hurts You.. but... I can't understand it...

the end? (no replies)

Criada — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:31:20 -0600

Back to type into the void. Odd how that helps..
I can't go on.. but I can't die yet.. because the kids aren't old enough to cope..
So.. back to burying it all and pretending, until my brain gives up totally because of the tension between belief and reality..

enough (no replies)

Criada — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:09:28 -0600

I wamt to die. It's a cop out.. but the choices all hurt so much.. and I am a coward.

Kerygma Conference (no replies)

Annasamovar — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 02:31:48 -0600

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Out of Work... (no replies)

Moriah Conquering Wind — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:45:01 -0500

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electric minds (10 replies)

runnyooze — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:30:28 -0500

How do you explain an invasion of privacy that is cleverly designed to sound like a common psychological disturbance? How do you explain to people without an understanding of human physiology that body movement can only occur when energy is converted to an electrical charge?

When you turn on a light, electrons cross a gap. When you start your car, an electric spark crosses a gap. While doing this you are totally unaware that in your own body the common dollar exchange of the human energy system, ATP (adenosine triphosphate), is releasing electrons and thus being converted into physical energy for all bodily processes and movement throughout the electron transport system. Every time you move or think, electrons stream across a gap between neurons called a synapse. This stream is like an electrical current and can be measured in the laboratory. The electrical field that you generate is very weak and is measured in millivolts and gauss.

The recent interest in Oriental acupuncture to prevent pain has helped lead to the use of electronic devices to aid the healing of bone with electrical current and to interrupt electrical signals that would cause pain if transmitted. The courts have defined death as the absence of electrical activity in the brain. Electronics, which has made this kind of monitoring possible, is the science of the development and application of devices and systems involving the flow of electrons in gaseous media and in semiconductors.

It is very hard to imagine life, any kind of life, as simply an electrical system. Kirlian photography shows the electrical aura around a leaf. Children arc being trained by physicists and psychologists to see electrical fields around people. When we speak of people as magnetic we may be speaking a scientific truth. The magnetoencephalogram (MEG) is used in the laboratory to measure the magnetic field in gauss given off by the cortex of the brain.

No motion is made by the human body without raising the so-called resting potential of nerve cells to an action potential voltage causing work. Stored in the double phosphate high energy bond of ATP, electrons are released to travel through the nervous system to activate muscles and are measured in millivolts, 1/1000 of a volt. ATP is what makes fireflies light up at night and accounts for the well-known shocking behavior of the electric eel.

The electroencephalogram (EEG) and the electrocardiogram (EKG) are graphic representations of the brain and heart making waves. Recently in sports medicine, athletes have had their body patterns recorded photographically to show their muscular strengths or weaknesses and predict their probable degree of success. This method has also been used to predict the performance of race horses.

Laser, a gas medium, is a natural extension of electronics. It is used in industry, acoustical recording, message transmission, and to read fingerprints even years after they have been left on a page. It is also used to identify horses from their chestnuts, the callosities on their legs. As an example of a technology that has been under development for some time we have to give credit for laser to Uncle Sam and you, the taxpayer. The National Standards Laboratory is busy making accurate new measurements because modern laser techniques are so precise that they have made the old ones obsolete. Laser is so fine-tuned that it is used for eye surgery.

The brain has been under investigation since the 1800s and earlier, and its activity recorded since the 1900s. It should not be too surprising that all brain tissue is simply a transmitter of electrical activity and a resonator that receives vibrations. With the computer, different areas of the brain can be displayed on a TV screen and the various activities under study displayed in an assortment of colors. The nerve impulses themselves can be converted into digital code so that the computer can identify their source, and from the source determine which part of the human nervous system is involved.

You cannot see human brain waves by looking at a human head. If that head, however, is attached in some way to a computer, you can look at the visual display and see the waves. Large, fast computers like the Cray outrace the mind of man when it comes to making concise, accurate, instantaneous measurements. Remote-sensing and over-the-horizon radars are commonplace. Remote sensing of animals without hurting the animal has been done. A powerful laser scanning can measure acoustics, density and the sound of electrical activity including the broadcast coming from the human ear. The human ear not only receives, but also sends out its own signals which can be picked up by a sensitive listening device like the laser. Once sounds enter the ear they interfere with each other and set up harmonic tones.

The range of human behavior is almost unquantifiable but attempts have been made. The basic areas, according to Maslow, that must be taken care of first are sleep, food and sex and I would add to this the need for emotional security. You are most likely to be stressed when these areas are attacked.

The effects of radio or microwaves of various kinds have been reported in scientific and lay literature. It is known that they can affect blood pressure, body temperature and mental states by reaching the hypothalamus through the eardrum which is in the closest contact to this master gland. We also know that astronauts can be monitored in space. We have already invented lenses that see in the dark and penetrate foliage and walls. Suppose that from a distance you could be influenced by electromagnetic or microwaves and be stressed by electrical shock, unexpected muscle spasms or contractions which could be made to occur in both voluntary and the involuntary muscles of your viscera. Suppose also that the intensity could be orchestrated to produce sensations from pleasure through pain. Suppose additionally that the stress is augmented by the surprise element and through subliminal, that is unconsciously heard, vocal suggestion. You, the subject, are in your own home, very possibly totally unaware of any kind of outside interference, until you are spoken to via laser.[Note:1] You might suddenly realize that you, a human being, had become an instrument.

This type of operation, under development for some time by American intelligence, is called mind control. It is more ghastly than George Orwell could possibly have conceived because he never experienced it.

Only a few people understand the interrelationships between our magnificent technological and medical accomplishments and the military-industrial complex. These few are hampered in their attempts at communication by involvement in their own fields and by security requirements. Knowledge proliferates at a doubling rate greater than every two years. What is currently known is quickly dated. If you are working you are running to catch up. If you are not working you may be bogged down in family and community affairs.

We exist in our complexity, psyching ourselves with pseudoscientific games, psychological hype and a couple-of-hundred-years-old love affair with snake oil and cures from the fountain of youth. It is both the best of times and the worst of times. Our so-called freedom is mired down in bureaucracy, ruled by dated old men, and clutched by inertia, boredom and fatigue.

When I started building by case, I only wanted to prove that what was happening to me was technologically possible. Although my proof is mainly circumstantial evidence, it is known that anything which appears in the marketplace has usually been under government development for quite a long time before it filters into public consciousness.

Suppose you were motivated by a combination mind/body attack and suppose also that you were lucky enough or unlucky enough to have the intelligence and kind of background to sort the whole thing out. What would you do?

This book is an attempt to explain what I believe has happened to me. Others will attribute my account to many other things. From my point of view this is a true story no matter how ridiculous or neurotically distorted it may seem. I know that it can be used against me. I believe that the story line was designed by the intelligence community to fit their disinformation program. The purpose of the book is simply to present the possibilities. Perhaps the computer-age youngsters who will have to cope with these futuristic developments will not be as upset as I was.

and then we come along (no replies)

runnyooze — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:09:06 -0500

Extract from Leading Edge International Research Journal #92
The KSEO 4/26/96 Interview with Alex Christopher
Author of Pandora's Box and Pandora's Box II
Transcript 6/1/96 by Leading Edge Research Group [www.cco.net]
Legend: DA (Dave Alan, Host) AC: Alex Christopher C: Caller
Keywords: Montauk, Phil Schneider, deep underground Bases, Reptilians, New Denver Airport, Masonic influences, disappearing children, Queen of England buying up U.S. Property, New World Order, George Bush, Area 51, Dulce, MKULTRA, CIA, bribes to Denver officials, Germans and Americans working together in high-tech craft, U.S. disk possession since 1920's and possession of hundreds in 1952.

DA: My special guest tonight is Alex Christopher, author of Pandora's Box, an expose of the British instigation through Washington D.C. over the last 200 years. You thought you were free? This stuff has been going on forever. The idea was to make us perceive we were "free and independent", but actually we are still subject to the British Commonwealth. She has a lot of information here, and we are going to have to have her back again for more. I talked to her last night. Just a fascinating individual. She is going to talk about the Montauk Project and extraterrestrial influences, and more. So, Alex, where do you start?

AC: Somebody told me one time, start in the middle and go from there. If you want to, pick a subject and we'll start from there.

DA: Last night we talked about a few things. We talked about the Denver airport last night and what is really going on down there, and we talked a bit about the Montauk project and Al Bielek, and then we skipped around a bit about some of the things in Pandora's Box. You mentioned that the Queen of England has been buying up a lot of property in Colorado under a pseudonym. Why don't we start on the subject of the British.

AC: All right. The information, primarily, that is in Pandora's Box covers how the major corporations, railroad and banking concerns in this country were set up through a trust that was originally known as the Virginia Company, and there was a survivor to the massacre of the royalty in France during the French Revolution, Marie Antoinette and King Louis' son, the Dauphin, who survived and was smuggled out of France. The Dauphin went to the United States via England, where he signed a contract with the Virginia Company. He came here to help the businesses, especially banking, in the United States. The deal was that everything would remain under English control, or subservient to it, and that brings us right up to today, because we are still looking at everything falling under that trust system going back to the Crown of England. It is mind boggling to think that everyone in this country has been led to believe that the people in the United States had won independence from England, when in fact they never did.

DA: Well, look at President Bush, wherein two years ago he went to England and was knighted by the Queen. Where is that coming from? Is it that he was a faithful servant?

AC: You bet. All of them are doing the bidding, and it goes back to their secret societies and the establishment of the New World Order, which all leads back to the house of Windsor. There has been in this country for a long time a grooming process whereby people carry on the bidding of the Crown of England. That is one of the things the system involving the Rhodes Scholars was set up to achieve. Cecil Rhodes set it up to groom people for this task, to carry the United States into the New World Order. It appears, from what I have been able to find out, that the Crown of England has had this very skillfully planned for hundreds of years, and it could be possible that they have been privy to information that not many of us have been for a long long time about the chaos involving Earth changes that is coming. It is my understanding that England is not going to make it through the changes, so they set up a whole new Empire over here. That goes back to some of the things we discussed before, about lands being bought up in Colorado.

DA: Yes, the area is of a pretty high altitude, where it will be safe.

AC: Yes. Plus, all the symbolism that is apparent in the layout of the new Denver airport says that it is a control center for world control. There is a lot of "secret society" symbology at the airport. We started researching all of this to find out what it all means. It's all very scary. A gentlemen by the name of AL Bielek, who has been involved in some very unusual government projects in the past, told me that the Denver area is where the establishment of the Western sector of the New World Order will be in the United States. Little bits and pieces keep coming to me, confirming things I have not had confirmed before.

DA: Do you know of John Coleman?

AC: The Committee of 300?

DA: Yes. What's your take on that?

AC: I think his information is fantastic. If he had had the information that I put in Pandora's Box when I put that together, it would have have blown his mind. But, as far as I know from my standpoint, both sets of material go hand in hand, right down the line.

DA: Some of these things about the background of the British invasion, taking over the land over here while they let us think that we are running this country. How they had a bone to pick with the Czar of Russia years ago, how they have pushed the socialist revolution....like they say, the sun never sets on British soil. About some of these things on the airport in Denver. Would you mind discussing some of those things again?

AC: Well, the first thing that got my attention at the airport was the capstone that I saw in a photograph, that had a Masonic symbol on it. So, I really wanted to go to the airport and see that, because I thought it was very unusual.

DA: The capstone?

AC: The capstone, or the dedication stone, for the Denver airport has a Masonic symbol on it.

A whole group of us went out to the airport to see some friends off and see this capstone, which also has a time capsule imbedded inside it. It sits at the south eastern side of the terminal which, by the way, is called The Great Hall, which is what Masons refer to as their meeting hall. And, on this thing it mentions the New World Airport Commission. I have never heard of that, have you?

DA: Never.

AC: It has a Masonic symbol on it, and it also has very unusual geometric designs. It depicts an arm rising up out of it that curves at a 45 degree angle. It also has a thing that looks like a keypad on it. This capstone structure is made of carved granite and stainless steel, and it is very fancy. This little keypad area at the end of the arm has an out-of-place unfinished wooden block sitting on it. The gentleman that was with me on the first trip out to the airport has since died. They say he committed suicide, but everything else tells me that this is no possible. No one can double-tie a catheter behind his own neck and strangle himself. I just don't think that is possible. But, his name was Phil Schneider, and he started blowing the whistle on all this stuff going on in the underground bases that he had helped build for years and years. He worked on the underground bases at Area 51 and Dulce, New Mexico, as well as several other places. Schneider told me that this keypad-looking area looked like a form of techno-geometry that is alien-oriented, and that it had something to do with a "directional system", whatever that meant, that functioned as a homing beacon to bring ships right into the Great Hall.

In the same general area on this capstone, there are some most unusual designs on the floor that are all Masonic in nature, which lead right back to the Black Sun

(Click here to view floor designs)

(Editor Note: See the page in LE#91 sent to us referring to this order, in terms of its connection with the Montauk experiments . According to Al Bielek, Schneider's father was a U-boat captain during the Nazi regime and who was also on the Eldridge in 1943 in a medical capacity), which goes back to Nazi symbology. See, the "secret societies" are supposedly into Sun worship. The Nazi's were into "Black Sun" worship, which connects with the idea of Saturn. Saturn and Satanism kind of go hand-in-hand.

Then, we have this system of murals at the airport that are the most grotesque things you've ever seen.

DA: What's on the murals?

AC: I say that that they are about what they plan to do to us, and the world as a whole, not what has happened or some fantasy. One of them that is very unusual has three caskets with dead people in them...

DA: That's part of the ritual connected with the Skull & Bones Club.

AC: Yes. There are evidently three groups of people that they would like to see dead. The first casket has what the artist told me was a Jewish-American child, a little girl, and she has the "star" on her clothes and a little Bible and a locket...

DA: Jewish lineage is passed through the female...

AC: Yes. Well, all these caskets depict women who are dead.
Then, in the center casket there is depicted a Native American woman,

and the last casket has a black woman in it.

Now, normally I would not have thought too much about these murals if I had not done a lot of research. Even in the government documents I have run across gene-splicing discussions on how they would like to splice out specific races, and also whoever these people are do not like the Jewish people. This is just one of the murals, and these murals are huge.

This same mural depicts the destruction of a city and the forest,

and there is a little girl holding a Mayan tablet that speaks of the destruction of civilization.

There is a mural that depicts this "thing" standing over a city that looks like a green "Darth Vader",with a sword, that has destroyed the city. This character is huge, and there is a road depicted with women walking holding dead babies.

This same mural extends over to another mural which depicts all of the children of the world taking the weapons from each country on earth and giving them to a central figure which is a German boy who has this iron fist and anvil in his hand that is totally out of proportion to the child's body, beating the swords into plowshares.

I thought, well, this is very odd depicting a German child doing this. What all this symbology on the airport murals seems to convey is that not only do we have a secret society behind this, but that it is a German secret society behind this, working in the vicinity of this New World Control Center.

DA: It is interesting when you consider Operation Paperclip wherein all these Nazi's were brought to the United States to be groomed, financed, and basically brought back into power.

AC: Well, I know they're here, because I have seen them alongside the Americans in the more sensitive areas of the airport. But, these paintings are most disturbing and very unusual. When I first tried to contact the artist and talk to him about these murals, he told me that he was given guidelines on what to paint and put in the murals. When I showed up in his studio, I asked to see the guidelines for the last two murals he was working on, he suddenly went "brain dead" and said "of course, there are no guidelines." It took myself and two other people over eight months to figure out all the symbology that is embodied in these murals. It turned out that some of these are "trigger" pictures, containing symbology designed to trigger altered personalities of people that have been groomed in MKULTRA type programs for specific tasks that they have been trained to do in terms of something connected with Satanic rituals and mind control. I had one woman that called me out of the blue one night, and she was really disturbed about some information. She told me many different things that later turned out to be known MKULTRA triggers. Also, almost every aspect of these murals contains symbols relating back to secret societies. When you get the overall view of what they are talking about in these things, it is very very scary. It goes back to the Biodiversity Treaty, getting rid of specific races of people, taking over the world and mind control.

There is one picture in which every plant turns out to be mind-altering or poisonous, and all the animals are Masonic symbols used in literature in every country in the world.

It took a very long time to track all this stuff down and figure out what they're trying to say. The one way they tell stories is in pictures. It's right there in our face when you go into the airport. Most people look at them and say, "boy, those are crazy-looking pictures, what are they doing in this airport?"

(Click here to view more details from the two murals)

DA: Now, you mentioned that underneath this airport it goes down many levels.

AC: Yes.

DA: Does the fact that all these underground levels are there have something to do with why it took so long for this airport to open?

AC: Well, the gentleman that I was dealing with, Phil Schneider, said that during the last year of construction they were connecting the underground airport system to the deep underground base. He told me that there was at least an eight-level deep underground base there, and that there was a 4.5 square mile underground city and an 88.5 square-mile base underneath the airport. It is very unusual that they would allot a 50 square-mile area on the surface at which to locate an airport in the middle of nowhere unless they really planned to use it for something very unusual later. There is a 10-mile, 4-line highway out to this airport, and there is nothing out there in between the airport and Denver. Not even a service station, at least in September 1995. The people in Denver are really upset with the fact that this airport went in the way it did.

There was this fellow who wrote a book in which he made the statement that they had a copy of an audio tape on which a Denver city official was talking with people from the CIA, and that he was paid 1.5 million dollars to allow the "airport" to be built, no matter what it took. It appears that there was a lot more interest in getting the airport built from just officials in the Denver area. They plan on using this facility for something else other than just landing planes.

DA: So, this guy got you down there to take a look at the underground?

AC: Well, he was invited to go along on the trip. I had a friend that actually got us down into the active area in the underground. It's very interesting down there. The baggage equipment area is very unusual. All the old luggage equipment that wouldn't work right doesn't look much different than the stuff that is working today.

DA: You were telling me that there are huge concrete corridors with sprinkers all along the ceiling. What are these sprinkler heads doing in a concrete bunker, pray tell?

AC: Well, this is the same question we asked. These shafts are huge and run along adjacent to the tramline on both sides. So, there are two of these huge shafts large enough to fit a two-lane highway in there. There are every few openings into and out of the tram shaft, but at the end of them, going out into this 50 square miles of acreage is a huge steel door that would facilitate the entrance of a great big truck. It could be used for almost anything, but what is so unusual about it is that about every five or six feet on the ceiling, across almost the full width of the area, there is a pipe with three or four sprinkler heads. This goes on for the full length of the thing, which must be close to a mile. There are two of these shafts, and I got a picture in the mail the other day which was very unusual that was taken by someone on board the tram in the shaft. The picture appeared to actually show ghost-like figures on it. It was a mother and a baby wrapped in a blanket. When you are down in that concrete shaft, both times I got nauseated. There are some very unusual vibrations down there. Now, the tunnel shaft that the tram comes in on could connect up with an underground tunnel coming in from five buildings that were built and buried. There was already a 40 foot diameter tunnel there when construction started. Those five buildings they built 3 1/2 years ago, and suddenly they said ,"oops, these are in the wrong place" and buried them, along with a very high-tech runway that is buried under about four inches of dirt. It seems insane that they would build a very technical building complex with interlocking tunnels and a tunnel going back to the tram tunnel at the concourse, and then state that they built it in the "wrong place" and cover it up with dirt. I don't believe that people are that stupid.

DA: No. Projects like that are strategically planned, and they just don't go and do that.

AC: Some of these five buildings are 150 feet tall. There is one 78 feet tall, and one that is 126 feet tall. They are all in that range. From this complex there is a shaft that runs to concourse "C". When they started this project, as I said, there was also a huge 40 foot diameter shaft brought in there from somewhere that was off-limits to the work crews. It was there when the project was started. And, everybody that worked on these projects....there were five different contractors, and the people on each contracted crew did not interact with the other ones. When the project was done, everyone was fired and sent away.

DA: You would think that during this massive construction they would not be able to keep this stuff secret.

AC: I think a lot of the people saw things that disturbed them so much that they would not talk about it. I know several people who worked on the project that managed to find their way down into the depths, probably close to the deep underground base, and saw things that scared them so badly they won't talk about it. I interviewed a few of the former employees on these construction crews that worked out there on these buildings that ended up buried, and they are afraid to talk. They say that everybody is real nervous about it, and they decided to tell some of the secrets that they knew, but they don't want anybody to know who they are. So, I can tell you that it is a very unusual and spooky type of place, and if you are a sensitive person you get nauseated as soon as you enter the perimeter of the airport. Especially when you go down underground. You become very nauseated and nervous. There is also so much electromagnetic flux in the area that if you get out on the open ground around the airport, you will "buzz".

DA: Where is this flux field coming from? What do you think the purpose of this is?

AC: I think that its coming from some kind of underground electrical system, because where we were there were no power lines, and the whole place was just buzzing with this free energy floating around. Very unusual. In addition, there are areas in the underground that have chain-link fences with the barbed wire tops pointed inward, like they were there to keep people in, not keep people out. All these areas are there, acres of it, and none of it is in active use. There are many terraced areas that go down. One area in particular is forbidden to go into unless you are wearing a biological protective suit. They say there is some kind of "unidentified biological fungus" in that area that attacks people's lungs.

DA: Hmmm. Some kind of way to hide something that is in this area?

AC: Well, we think that area is one that leads to deeper levels underground at the airport. But, it is surrounded by a chain-link fence and you can't get in there. We think this is the area that one of the electricians kind of stumbled into that went down about six levels below the fourth level, and ran into some really weird stuff. He won't talk about any of it now.

DA: Real weird stuff.

AC: Also, at the airport there are what look like miniature nuclear reactor cooling towers, and I don't understand why they are there. When people asked, the reply is that they are part of the ventilation and exhaust system. Ventilation and exhaust from where?

DA: What do you think its for?

AC: I think it is all hooked up to the deep underground.

DA: They say that this place looks like some underground "holding area"...somewhat like a cattle lot....a place that could hold thousands of people. The gates, fences....

AC: The luggage transport vehicles move on a full-sized double-lane highway, and along this highway are chain-linked areas that could be used for holding areas. I don't understand why they built this the way they did, unless they planned to use it for something like that in the future.

DA: So what could all this be for?

AC: If Phil is right, and all this hooks up to the deep underground base that he was offered the plans to build back in 1979, and that what this other man told me in private that there is a lot of human slave labor in these deep underground bases being used by these aliens, and that a lot of this slave labor is children. He said that when the children reach the point that they are unable to work any more, they are slaughtered on the spot and consumed.

DA: Consumed by who?

AC: Aliens. Again, this is not from me, but from a man that gave his life to get this information out. He worked down there for close to 20 years, and he knew everything that was going on.

DA: Hmmm. Who do these aliens eat?

AC: They specifically like young human children, that haven't been contaminated like adults. Well, there is a gentleman giving out a lot of information from a source he gets it from, and he says that there is an incredible number of children snatched in this country.

DA: Over 200,000 each year.

AC: And that these children are the main entree for dinner.

DA: How many Draconians are down there?

AC: I have heard the figure of 150,000 just in the New York area.

DA: Underneath New York?

AC: Yes. In some kind of underground base there.

DA: Interesting. Now, you've seen pictures of these things?

AC: I have seen them face to face.

DA: You have?

AC: Yes. From some information that has been put out by a group or team that also works in these underground bases that is trying to get information out to people that love this country, there is a war that is going on under our feet, and above our heads, that the public doesn't know anything about, and its between these alien forces and the humans that are trying to fight them.

DA: What other types have you seen?

AC: The ones that I have seen are the big-eyed Greys and the Reptilians.

DA: What do these Reptilians look like?

AC: There are three different types.

DA: Can you tell us how you happened to come into contact with them?

AC: When I lived in Florida in Panama City, at that particular time the Gulf Breeze sightings were going on, and the area was virtually a hotbed for strange events. I had neighbors that were into watching UFOs and getting information about them. One night about 2:30 am, my neighbor called me and was absolutely frantic, and wanted me to come over there. I ran over there and went in the front door, and she and her boyfriend, who is a commercial airline pilot, were in the living room scared out of their wits. I looked over at her, and her eyeballs are rolling back in her head and she was passing out and sliding down the wall. Her boyfriend was trying to tell me what was going on, and I was feeling this incredible energy that felt like it was trying to penetrate my head. So, I grabbed both of them and pulled them both outside, where we stood for a while and talked...

DA: Some people would say that this is a case of demon possession...

AC: Oh, no. There was radiation in the room. The next day all of her plants were dead. So, there was a massive amount of energy focused on that room. Anyway, after about an hour had passed, we had discussed what went on and decided to go back into the house. They had both been in bed and were pulled out of their bed during the night. All they remember is a flash of light in their faces and the next thing they know they're both scared to death. But, when we went back into the house, I noticed that the man had a small palm-print on his side with fingers that must have been 10 inches long, with claw marks on the end that were burned into his side. The next day, that area was so swollen that he could not touch it. I have video pictures of these things on his side. The prints were there from someone bending down from behind him and pulling him out of bed. They had been making love, and somebody lifted him off of her and left these burns there.

Anyway, they were both totally flipped out. I finally got them calmed down enough to let me go home. I went home and went to bed. The next thing I know, I woke up and there is this "thing" standing over my bed. He had wrap-around yellow eyes with snake pupils, and pointed ears and a grin that wrapped around his head. He had a silvery suit on, and this scared the living daylights out of me. I threw the covers over my head and started screaming....I mean, here is this thing with a Cheshire-cat grin and these funky glowing eyes...this is too much. I have seen that kind of being on more than one occasion.

DA: What else can you say about it?

AC: Well, he had a hooked nose and he was very human looking, other than the eyes, and had kind of grayish skin. Later on in 1991, I was working in a building in a large city, and I had taken a break about 6:00, and the next thing I knew it was 10:30 at night, and I thought I had taken a short break. I started remembering that I was taken aboard a ship, through four floors of an office building, and through a roof. There on the ship is were I encountered Germans and American's working together, and also the Grey aliens, and then we were taken to some other kind of facility and there I saw the reptilians again ... the one's I call the "baby Godzilla's", that have the short teeth and yellow slanted eyes, and who look like a veloci-raptor, kind of.

DA: So, why would these people pick on you?

AC: Well, I found one common denominator in the abduction, and it keeps on being repeated over and over again. I deal with lots of people who have been abducted, and the one common denominator seems to be the blood line, and it's the blood line that goes back to ancient Indian or Native American blood lines.

DA: Are these people looking for genetic material?

AC: Well, I don't know if it is a very ancient blood line that they want to try and stop, or what the reasoning is. I know that I was asked some questions, like how I was capable of doing some of the psychic things I was doing at the time. But, it is very unusual to find anybody that remotely thinks they have been taken that doesn't have the Indian blood line, somewhere.

DA: Now, after that experience, what happened after that? What were some of the other times you saw some of these beings?

AC: Well, at that facility I saw the almond-eyed Greys, but the thing that sticks in my mind are the beings that look like reptiles, or the veloci-raptors. They are the cruelest beings you could ever imagine, and they even smell hideous. There were a couple of very unusual areas down there where I was taken which looked like cold storage lockers, where these things were in hibernation tubes, and that is about all I remember, other than seeing some black helicopters and little round-wing disk type aircraft. At that point, the memory seems to be cut off and I can't tap throught to anything else. They're there, folks.

DA: Maybe I'll open up some phone lines, and maybe we'll talk about Al Bielek and some things you discussed with him. Are you open to that?

AC: Sure.

Caller (C): On those ships where the Germans and Americans were, did they have any kind of an insignia on their uniforms?

AC: Yes, they did. I have been told that the organization is called "The Black League" by people that might know. A blue triangle with a red-eyed black dragon, with a circle around it. It was very unusual. There's another woman that has written a book about an encounter she had in Fort Walden. I met her some years back, and we were talking about things we've seen. She also talked about this strange insignia. She and I both sat down and drew what we saw, and they were virtually carbon copies of each other. (Editor Note: See the symbol on the shirt sleeve of the Israeli soldier comforting the Rabin's daughter at his funeral in Israel, shown in Newsweek 11/20/95. Winged serpent similar to that seen by Herbert Schirmer and reprinted in Crux #4 in 1989. The comparison will be shown in Leading Edge #92).

In the book Cosmic Conflict, the author talks about the ancient city that was uncovered by the Germans before World War II, and tells about their effort to revive some frozen humans they found in this underground city, and that the true humans couldn't be revived, but the ones that could be revived were in fact reptilians in disguise, and these reptilians have the capability to do shape-shifting and create a holographic image so when you look at them you see a human, but under that there is a human there. It's like a "deja vu" of the movie They Live. Cathy O'Brien, who wrote Trance-Formation in America, revealed that George Bush projected a hologram that he was a reptilian .... real crazy stuff, but if this technology that they possess is there, why couldn't a race do something like that ... these people that are working with our government?

C: I believe that, but I do believe that these are demons that manifest themselves as alien beings, and that this has been going on for a long time...

DA: Demons? Who are demons?

C: Fallen angels.

DA: The reptilians look like that anyway. All the scriptures around the planet talk about serpent beings. What do you think, Alex?

AC: Well, I think that's pretty much what the bottom line is. Also, they talk about the rapture...

DA: It could be like an alien "thanksgiving".

AC: These people that have done all this research and are part of the underground government are telling that the humans on this planet have been at war with these reptilian aliens for thousands of years. At one point, things got so hot on the planet, like it is now, aliens took on this holographic image and infiltrated the human race in order to take it over and undermine it, just like this New World Order is doing right now. They're saying that the same thing happened to civilization on Earth before, and that the humans before actually had the capability for interplanetary travel, and that it was so bad here with the reptilians that they had to leave.

DA: I think that this has been going on for hundreds of thousands of years.

AC: Yes. What they are also saying is that these beings that are human-looking that are visiting our planet, at this time, trying to inform people what is going on, and guide them, are actually our ancestors that escaped the Earth before when it was under reptilian domination.

DA: What is your take on these crop circles?

AC: Oh, the crop circles that are the real ones are a type of geometric language containing some kind of information. There was one that was a Mandelbrot fractal. How do you fake that? They say that there are a lot of crop circles going on in the United States, and that the government shuts the information off about their occurrance.

DA: Canada and Australia as well.

C: It seems that we are having an increase in these encounters and sightings.

AC: Things are escalating at an incredible rate. I think a lot of these movies in the media are trying to get us softened up for what they plan to unleash on us.

C: So, in just a matter of years, they plan to bring it out and bring people to that airport?

AC: You know, Reagan said more than once that the only thing that would bring people together would be some kind of "outside force".

DA: Exactly, I remember that. He said that several times.

AC: I went to South Florida a couple of weeks ago and interviewed a man who had done research for 30 years, and oddly enough, he tapped into some of the same information I had, in that our government has had round-winged, saucer-type technology, high mach speed aircraft since the 1920's, and that in 1952 they had over 500 of these aircraft hidden in secret bases. Now, if they had that in 1952, considering that military technology grows by 44 years for every year that goes by, what do you imagine they have now, 44 years later, after technology has advanced the equivalent of 1,936 years?

C: About two or three months ago, I went to do a business transaction with a fellow I have known for about two or three years, and one of his relatives had just died -- we were pretty close, and we got into a deep conversation about stuff, and he told me he worked in an underground military base in Colorado. I asked him what he did there, and he said that if he did he'd have to kill me. I told him I didn't want to know. I was really shocked, and didn't know what to think of it, and then I heard this program. I want to know what your guest thinks about the Iron Mountain report the government did in the 1960's, and if that ties into the Nazis and the American's working together. Also, this would also explain George Washington's vision where this country was invaded from the East by a foreign power, and then when all hope seemed lost, the angels of God would come down and the nation would be saved. Anyway, I never could understand why angels of God would come down and fight with men to save a puny little country that has been around for only 200 years, but in this scenario, there seems to be some explanation here.

AC: Yes, the Iron Mountain report. The guy that claims to be the author of it now claims that it was nothing more than a joke, but for a joke, it seems to be following the time line to the hilt, so I think it was something that made its way out and they are trying to cover that up. Everything that was in that report is happening in great detail right now.

C: Do these reptilians bleed if they get shot?

DA: Has anybody ever killed one?

AC: Phil Schneider did. He killed several of them. When he was involved cutting some tunnels at Dulce, he was lowered down a shaft and ended up in a nest of these things. He and some of his team were in there, and some of the Delta Force came in. They had a shootout with these aliens, and he killed a couple of them before they got a round off and shot him with some sort of laser weapon. He used to pull his shirt up and show me where they darned near blew a hole in his chest with whatever kind of laser weapon they were using.

DA: So they can be killed, then?

AC: Yes, if you have the drop on them. They die just like everyone else. They consist of mass just like we do.

C: It is interesting that high officials in the Clinton administration, like Cisneros, were deeply involved with the construction of this airport. Also, Pat Shroeder. All of a sudden, she's leaving office. It's like a lot of people who have been involved with this airport are leaving town. Also, there is a fellow by the name of Rodney Stitch, who writes about the total corruption in the Denver area. Does this tie in with what you were talking about?

AC: Well, he is the one that wrote the book Defrauding America. He said that they had a tape of a CIA agent paying off the mayor of Denver to get the airport built. There is just so much corruption. They are selling the good American people out. We have some of our own people selling the rest of population out for a few pieces of gold.

DA: What about Al Bielek and how what he is saying may relate to this?

AC: I met Al about a year ago.

DA: Who is Al Bielek?

AC: He claims to be one of the ones who jumped overboard off the Eldridge when it went into hyperspace during the Philadelphia Experiment. He actually travelled forward in time, and asked the people that he encountered there what happened in his future. At that time, he was given the information about the New World Order and that Denver was the location for the NWO Western Sector, and that Atlanta was supposed to be the control center for the Eastern Sector. Can it be that the fact that the Olympics is supposed to be in Atlanta is part of a scenario? All the highways in Atlanta have high-security monitoring cameras just like those seen in some of the underground areas at the Denver airport. These monitors are all over the interstate highway and on many of the streets in Atlanta. Last week, I was talking to a fellow who was actually working on the Olympic project, in terms of the main stadium, and he said that they're gearing up for the possibility of terrorist acts. Do they know something we don't know?

DA: Maybe they want to go ahead and perpetrate something again. One thing after another. It's all part of their scenario. Let's take a call.

C: Yes, I would like to thank you and your guest for coming foward with this information. And, as unbelievable as it is for the audience, I personnally have had first-hand experience with some of this stuff. Not so much with the reptilians, but when you talk about this technology base that the government is working with, my own encounters with this technology were basically terrifying, in that I didn't know what was going on. I got indoctrinated into some type of mind control program that was perpetrated on me. I was in the wrong place at the wrong time. It's amazing to me that this stuff is going on, and I know that it is frustrating to get people to wake up to this. I am a little nervous here. It runs a little deeper than just on a physical level of threat. I think a lot of this stuff is not just about suppressing our minds and will to resist the government. It's about getting our minds to the point to where we're so "droned down" that we have no chance of reconnecting with the source. I think this whole thing has to do with us on a soul level.

AC: That's right. That's what it's all about. It's the last great adventure to control the space between our ears and to eventually take over our souls. I also think that a lot of the people who have sold us out and are involved in this have no idea what the BIG picture is, because it is all so compartmentalized. This is a very demonic scenario that is going on here.

C: That is why I will spend the rest of my days trying to bring this to people's attention. My take on it is that if you don't make the cut when all of this comes to a climax, and they do achieve that ultimate control, your chances of reconnecting are delayed indefinitely.

AC: Well, you know, we have some beings that are waiting for people to ask, en masse, for help, and they are there, and they will help, but we have to ask for help, because they honor free will.

C: My previous experience was pretty nightmarish, but I did get through this, and my perspective on God is a gift.

DA: Alex, how do we get ahold of your book, Pandora's Box?

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runnyooze — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:06:56 -0500

Operation Mind Control

Walter Bowart, New York: Dell Publishing Co., 1978

Please keep fearfully in mind that the astonishing information published in this seminal work of investigative reporting, concerning avenues taken to decision and execution by our secret police to fracture or dissolve human minds, then to operate those minds as a small boy, might operate a Yo-Yo, for purposes of counter-intelligence military ?efficiency,? and the destruction of democratic institutions, was drawn directly from federal records and from official laboratory archives of the highest educational purpose?as well as from the reviving memories of those who had already undergone the dehumanizing process. ... [p. 14]

Zombie is a quaint, old-fashioned folklore word but its meaning becomes obscene when our children?s minds are being controlled ... [p. 17][Note:1]

It may have been the biggest story since the atom bomb. The headline, however, was small and ignored the larger issue. ?Drug Tests by CIA Held More Extensive Than Reported in ?75,? said the New York Times on July 16, 1977. ...

The testing of drugs by the CIA was just a part of the United States government?s top-secret mind-control project, a project which had spanned thirty-five years and had involved tens of thousands of individuals. It involved techniques of hypnosis, narco-hypnosis, electronic brain stimulation, behavioral effects of ultrasonic, microwave, and low-frequency sound, aversive and other behavior modification therapies. In fact, there was virtually no aspect of human behavioral control that was not explored in their search for the means to control the memory and will of both individuals and whole masses of people.

The CIA succeeded in developing a whole range of psycho-weapons to expand its already ominous psychological warfare arsenal. With these capabilities, it was now possible to wage a new kind of war?a war which would take place invisibly, upon the battlefield of the human mind. ... [p. 19]

The psychological techniques described in The Manchurian Candidate were to become a reality less than a decade after Condon saw his story set in type. As if Condon?s fiction had been used as the blueprint, a group of hypno-programmed ?zombies? were created. Some were assassins prepared to kill on cue. Others were informers, made to remember minute details under hypnosis. Couriers carried illegal messages outside the chain of command, their secrets secured behind posthypnotic blocks. Knowledge of secret information was removed from the minds of those who no longer had the ?need to know??they were given posthypnotic amnesia. ... [p. 21]

The objective of Operation Mind Control during this period has been to take human beings, both citizens of the United States and citizens of friendly and unfriendly nations, and transform them into unthinking, subconsciously programmed ?zombies,? motivated without their knowledge and against their wills to perform in a variety of ways in which they would not otherwise willingly perform. This is accomplished through the use of various techniques called by various names, including brainwashing, thought reform, behavior modification, hypnosis, and conditioned reflex therapy. For the purpose of this book the term ?mind control? will be used to describe these techniques generically.*

Mind control is the most terrible imaginable crime because it is committed not against the body, but against the mind and the soul. Dr. Joost A. M. Meerloo expresses the attitude of the majority of psychologists in calling it ?mind rape,? and warns that it poses a great ?danger of destruction of the spirit? which can be ?compared to the threat of total physical destruction . . .? ... [p. 23]

?I can hypnotize a man?without his knowledge or consent?into committing treason against the United States,? boasted Dr. George Estabrooks in the early 1940s.

Estabrooks, chairman of the Department of Psychology at Colgate University, ... [p. 58]

From one such think tank, the Rand Corporation, came a report [1949] ... [p. 67]

? ... a hypnotized subject will often accept and confess to an implanted memory as a real event in his own past life.? ...

A number of experienced hypnotists had been able to train their subjects to perform ?in such a way that observers could not tell that the subject was in a trance or that he was acting under hypnotic suggestions.? ... [p. 69]

To induce hypnosis in an unwilling subject, the report suggested any of three possibilities which were then well supported by research findings:

1. As part of a medical examination, talk relaxation to the subject, thus disguising the hypnotic induction. For example, the person could be given a blood pressure test, told that he must relax completely in order to give an adequate test record, and then be given suggestions to go to sleep which would result in a hypnotic trance.

2. Induce hypnosis while the person is actually asleep from normal fatigue. This could be done by simply talking softly into the sleeper?s ear.

3. Use injections of drugs to induce hypnosis. The hypnotic drugs would relax the subject and put him in a ?twilight state? where the subconscious mind is very susceptible to suggestion.

Subjects who refuse or resist the simple ?talking? methods of hypnotic induction could be given a few grams of paraldehyde or an intravenous injection of sodium pentothal or sodium amytal. ... Subsequently the subject could be allowed to practice carrying out posthypnotic suggestions. He could then be rehypnotized, still without his conscious cooperation, but this time without the use of drugs. ...

Another important use of hypnosis ... the report said, would be the induction of amnesia: ?Once a deep hypnotic trance is achieved, it is possible to introduce posthypnotic amnesia so that [a subject] . . . would not know . . . that he had been subjected to hypnosis, to drugs, or to any other treatment.? ...

The report then said, ?Conceivably, electroshock convulsions might be used as an adjunctive device to achieve somnambulism in a very high percentage of the cases. ... It is conceivable, therefore, that electroshock treatments might be used to weaken difficult cases in order to produce a hypnotic trance of great depth.?

In 1958 the Bureau of Social Science Research (BSSR), a subcontractor to the Rand Corporation, issued a ?technical report? on hypnosis to the air force ...

?it is conceivable . . . that these techniques could have been used and covered up so successfully that they might be impossible to recognize . . .? ...

All of these techniques, involving drug-induced hypnosis and electroshock convulsions, were eventually developed and used to reduce some of our own citizens to a zombie state in which they would blindly serve the government. Regardless of the Constitution and the laws which supposedly protect the individual against government coercion, ?zombies? were covertly created to do the government?s more unsavory bidding. Such ?zombies? asked no questions about the legality of their assignments. Often their assignments were never consciously known. And if they were ever questioned about their own actions, amnesia protected them from self-incrimination. ... [p. 70-73]

In 1951, a former naval officer described ?a secret? of certain military and intelligence organizations. He called it ?Pain-Drug-Hypnosis? and said it ?is a vicious war weapon ... The extensiveness of the use of this form of hypnotism in espionage work is now so widespread that it is long past the time when people should have become alarmed about it . . .? ... [p. 75]

Mind control arranges that ?slaves? of the intelligence community?witnesses, couriers, and assassins?are ?protected? from their own memories and guilt by amnesia. These ?slaves? may be left alive, but the knowledge they possess is buried deep within the tombs of their own minds by techniques which can keep the truth hidden even from those who have witnessed it. It is the ultimate debriefing, the final security measure short of assassination. ... [p. 148]

Jos? Delgado was a neurophysiologist at the Yale University School of Medicine. By 1964, ... he had already been experimenting with electronic stimulation of the brain (ESB) for nearly two decades. His work, supported by the Office of Naval Research, ... [p. 250]

A number of government agencies were actually at work on projects similar to Delgado?s, and through these projects the cryptocracy had gained the technology for direct access to the control of the brain and through it, the mind. ... [p. 251]

ESB, however, used in conjunction with psycho-surgery and behavior modification, offered unlimited possibilities. After experiments on laboratory animals met with success, human experimentation was enthusiastically undertaken in quest of the most reliable and absolute method of remote control of the mind. ... [p. 253]

ESB has, meanwhile, been strikingly successful in other areas. It has been used to modify mental mechanisms, to produce changes in mood and feelings, to reinforce behavior both positively and negatively. It has been used to activate sensory and motor regions of the brain in order to produce elementary or complex experiences or movements, to summon memories, and to induce hallucinations. It also has been used to suppress or inhibit behavior and experience and memory?outside of the conscious control of the owner of the brain. ... [p. 256]

And, in 1974, the first victim of Parkinson?s disease treated by ESB walked gracefully out of a San Francisco hospital under his own power, thanks to portable ESB. He had a ?stimoceiver? implanted in his brain ... The ?stimoceiver? which weighed only a few grams and was small enough to implant under his scalp, permitted both remote stimulation of his brain and the instantaneous telemetric recording of his brain waves. ... [p. 256-257]

And by the late 1960s, the ?remote control? of the human brain?accomplished without the implantation of electrodes?was well on its way to being realized.

A research and development team at the Space and Biology Laboratory of the University of California at the Los Angeles Brain Research Institute found a way to stimulate the brain by creating an electrical field completely outside the head. Dr. W. Ross Adey stimulated the brain with electric pulse levels which were far below those thought to be effectual in the old implanting technique. ... [p. 257]

In 1975 a primitive ?mind reading machine? was tested at the Stanford Research Institute. The machine is a computer which can recognize a limited amount of words by monitoring a person?s silent thoughts. This technique relies upon the discovery that brain wave tracings taken with an electroencephalograph (EEG) show distinctive patterns that correlate with individual words?whether the words are spoken aloud or merely subvocalized (thought of).

The computer initially used audio equipment to listen to the words the subject spoke. (At first the vocabulary was limited to ?up,? ?down,? ?left,? and ?right.?) At the same time the computer heard the words, it monitored the EEG impulses coming from electrodes pasted to the subject?s head and responded by turning a camera in the direction indicated. After a few repetitions of the procedure, the computer?s hearing was turned off and it responded solely to the EEG ?thoughts.? It moved a television camera in the directions ordered by the subject?s thoughts alone! ... [p. 258]

While Dr. Reed conceded that it was ?conceivable that thoughts could be injected? into a person?s mind by the government, he indicated that he did not believe it had already been done. ... [p. 259]

Typically, the scientists have not been vigilant enough, for the cryptocracy already has developed remote-controlled men who can be used for political assassination and other dangerous work, ... [p. 260]

In 1967 a writer named Lincoln Lawrence published a book ... [Were We Controlled? presented] a sophisticated technique known as RHIC?EDOM ... Radio Hypnotic Intra-Cerebral Control?Electronic Dissolution of Memory. ...

?Under RHIC, a ?sleeper? can be used years later with no realization that the ?sleeper? is even being controlled! He can be made to perform acts that he will have no memory of ever having carried out. In a manipulated kind of kamikaze operation where the life of the ?sleeper? is dispensable, RHIC processing makes him particularly valuable because if he is detected and caught before he performs the act specified . . . nothing he says will implicate the group or government which processed and controlled him.? ...

... according to Lawrence, ... during the operation a small electrode was implanted inside ... [the person?s] mastoid sinus. The electrode responded to a radio signal which would make audible, inside ... [the person?s] head, certain electronic commands to which he had already been posthypnotically conditioned to respond. ...

In 1975 the RHIC-EDOM story surfaced again. ... The journalist, James L. Moore, said that the papers in his possession described the details of ?a military technique of mind-control called Radio-Hypnotic Intra-Cerebral Control?Electronic Dissolution of Memory.? ...

According to Moore, in the initial (RHIC) stage of programming the ... [person] is put into a deep hypnotic trance, and conditioned to go intro trance at the sound of a specific tone. ?A person may be placed under this control with or without his knowledge, programmed to perform certain actions and maintain certain attitudes? whenever he hears the tone. ...

The second part of the process, electronic dissolution of memory (EDOM), Moore said, ?... By electronically jamming the brain, acetylcholine creates static which blocks out sights and sounds. You would then have no memory of what you saw or heard; your mind would be a blank.? ...

The claims of James L. Moore would sound fantastic were it not for the abundance of information to support the possibility of their validity. ... [p. 261-264]

The cryptocracy has gone to absurd lengths to develop remote-controlled beings. Victor Marchetti revealed that the CIA had once tried to create a cyborg cat. He said that the Agency wired a live feline for sound in an attempt to use the pet for eavesdropping purposes. The cat was first altered electronically so that it would function as a listening device in areas where potential enemy agents would be discussing covert plots.[Note:2] ...

After the electronic feline was at last ready for its assignment, it was turned loose on the street and was followed by a CIA support van loaded with electronic monitoring gear. ... [p. 273]

The cryptocracy has used mind control for the past thirty years. It has used it on its own agents and employees, on enemies and friends alike. It has used it on thousands of Americans without their knowledge or consent. The CIA has programmed assassins and couriers by it. The CIA has even openly confessed to its conspiracy of mind control.

Many people will believe that since the CIA has publicly disclosed its interest in mind control, it has now ceased its activities. The earlier CIA records, however, contain a number of termination dates for aspects of Operation Mind Control, yet evidence clearly suggests that it continued past those dates.

In 1975, following the release of the Rockefeller Commission Report and the subsequent investigations by Senator Church?s and Congressman Pike?s committees, a public accounting was given and apologies were made. The intelligence community was reprimanded and small changes made. ... [p. 275]

Recent history documents the fact that the CIA, as the whipping boy of the cryptocracy, covers up and routinely lies about its activities, heaping one lie on another, in a labyrinthine network of falsehood. It stretches credibility to believe, therefore, that the CIA and especially lower-profile members of the cryptocracy have terminated the mind-control research and development that has been going on for thirty years. ... If it has ceased, it has ceased only because it is obsolete and the new technology of radiation and electronic brain stimulation has given the cryptocracy a more powerful form of control. ... [p. 276]

With advancements in electronic technology?increasingly sophisticated microphones, transmitters, and surveillance devices?the erosion of privacy becomes a mudslide. ... [p. 280]

Mind control remains above United States law, making it a most attractive tool for clandestine operators. [p. 281]

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[Note:1] Richard Condon, author of The Manchurian Candidate (1958), the forward to Operation Mind Control (1978).

* ... The mind control examined is this book is the control of one individual?s mind by another.

[Note:2] Jos? Delgado, M.D., conducted experiments (circa 1961) that attached an electrode to the eardrum (middle ear) of a cat. The device picked-up people's whispered conversations and transmitted them to a receiver for monitoring. The CIA attached their tiny radio implant to the cat's cochlea (inner ear).

Hannah Montana Scandal! Thanks, SATAN!!! (2 replies)

Moriah Conquering Wind — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:52:33 -0600

Fair warning, might be considered offensive to some.
But it bes funny as hell. :)

Service Order for 20 August 2008 ev (no replies)

mnphysicist — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:32:24 -0500

Call to worship:
music tbd

Opening

Leader: The Lord almighty grant us a quiet night and peace at the last.
All: Amen

L: It is good to give thanks to the Lord,
R: to sing praise to your name, O Most High;

L: To herald your love in the morning,
R: Your truth at the close of the day.

Confession
The confession is said responsively, first with the lector confessing and receiving the promise of absolution from the congregation, then with the congregation confessing and receiving the promise of absolution from the lector. [In our case, one member speaks for the congregation, so as not to clutter the chat.]

L: I confess to God Almighty, before the whole company of heaven, and to you, my brothers and sisters, that I have sinned in thought, word, and deed by my fault, by my own fault, by my own most grievous fault; wherefore I pray God Almighty to have mercy on me, forgive me all my sins, and bring me to everlasting life. Amen

R: The almighty and merciful Lord grant you pardon, forgiveness, and remission of all your sins. Amen

R: We confess to God Almighty, before the whole company of heaven, and to you, our brothers and sisters, that we have sinned in thought, word, and deed by our fault, by our own fault, by our own most grievous fault; wherefore we pray God Almighty to have mercy on us, forgive us all our sins, and bring us to everlasting life. Amen

L: The almighty and merciful Lord grant you pardon, forgiveness, and remission of all your sins. Amen.

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Responsorial Psalm
Ps 23:1-3a, 3b-4, 5, 6
L: (1) The Lord is my shepherd; there is nothing I shall want.
R: The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want. In verdant pastures he gives me repose; Beside restful waters he leads me; he refreshes my soul.
L: The Lord is my shepherd; there is nothing I shall want.
R: He guides me in right paths for his name?s sake. Even though I walk in the dark valley
I fear no evil; for you are at my side With your rod and your staff that give me courage.
L: The Lord is my shepherd; there is nothing I shall want.
R: You spread the table before me in the sight of my foes; You anoint my head with oil; my cup overflows.
L: The Lord is my shepherd; there is nothing I shall want.
R: Only goodness and kindness will follow me all the days of my life; And I shall dwell in the house of the LORD for years to come.
L: The Lord is my shepherd; there is nothing I shall want.

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Responsory

L: Into your hands, O Lord, I commend my spirit.
R: Into your hands I commend my spirit.

L: You have redeemed me, O Lord God of truth.
R: Into your hands I commend my spirit.

L: Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit.
R: Into your hands I commend my spirit.

Liturgical Prayers

L: Hear my prayer, O Lord;
R: and let my cry for help come unto thee.

L: Keep me as the apple of your eye;
R: hide me in the shadow of your wings.

L: In righteousness I shall see you;
R: when I awake, your presence will give me joy.

L: Be present, merciful God, and protect us through the hours of this night, so that we who are wearied by the changes and chances of life may find our rest in you; through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen

>>>>>> OPEN PRAYER TIME (via online chat)

St Francis Prayer
Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.

Where there is hatred, let me sow love; where there is injury, pardon;

where there is doubt, faith; where there is despair, hope;

where there is darkness, light; where there is sadness, joy;

O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled as to console; to be understood as to understand; to be loved as to love.

For it is in giving that we receive; it is in pardoning that we are pardoned; and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life.

Lord's Prayer

Our Father, who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy Name.
Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, On earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, As we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation, But deliver us from evil.
[For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen.]

Gospel Canticle

L: Guide us waking, O Lord, and guard us sleeping; that awake we may watch with Christ and asleep we may rest in peace.

R: Lord, now you let your servant go in peace; your word has been fulfilled. My own eyes have seen the salvation which you have prepared in the sight of ev'ry people: a light to reveal you to the nations and the glory of your people Israel.

L: Glory to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit; as it was in the beginning, is now, and will be forever. Amen

Benediction

L: The almighty and merciful Lord, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, bless us and keep us.
R: Admen

Antiphony:
music tbd

Service Order for 19 August 2008 ev (no replies)

mnphysicist — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:44:43 -0500

Call to worship:
music tbd

Opening

Leader: The Lord almighty grant us a quiet night and peace at the last.
All: Amen

L: It is good to give thanks to the Lord,
R: to sing praise to your name, O Most High;

L: To herald your love in the morning,
R: Your truth at the close of the day.

Confession
The confession is said responsively, first with the lector confessing and receiving the promise of absolution from the congregation, then with the congregation confessing and receiving the promise of absolution from the lector. [In our case, one member speaks for the congregation, so as not to clutter the chat.]

L: I confess to God Almighty, before the whole company of heaven, and to you, my brothers and sisters, that I have sinned in thought, word, and deed by my fault, by my own fault, by my own most grievous fault; wherefore I pray God Almighty to have mercy on me, forgive me all my sins, and bring me to everlasting life. Amen

R: The almighty and merciful Lord grant you pardon, forgiveness, and remission of all your sins. Amen

R: We confess to God Almighty, before the whole company of heaven, and to you, our brothers and sisters, that we have sinned in thought, word, and deed by our fault, by our own fault, by our own most grievous fault; wherefore we pray God Almighty to have mercy on us, forgive us all our sins, and bring us to everlasting life. Amen

L: The almighty and merciful Lord grant you pardon, forgiveness, and remission of all your sins. Amen.

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Responsorial Psalm
Deuteronomy 32:26-27ab, 27cd-28, 30, 35cd-36ab
L: (39c) It is I who deal death and give life.
R: ?I would have said, ?I will make an end of them and blot out their name from men?s memories,?
Had I not feared the insolence of their enemies, feared that these foes would mistakenly boast.?
L: It is I who deal death and give life.
R: ??Our own hand won the victory; the LORD had nothing to do with it.??For they are a people devoid of reason, having no understanding.
L: It is I who deal death and give life.
R: ?How could one man rout a thousand, or two men put ten thousand to flight, Unless it was because their Rock sold them and the LORD delivered them up??
L: It is I who deal death and give life.
R: Close at hand is the day of their disaster, and their doom is rushing upon them! Surely, the LORD shall do justice for his people; on his servants he shall have pity.
L: It is I who deal death and give life.

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Responsory

L: Into your hands, O Lord, I commend my spirit.
R: Into your hands I commend my spirit.

L: You have redeemed me, O Lord God of truth.
R: Into your hands I commend my spirit.

L: Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit.
R: Into your hands I commend my spirit.

Liturgical Prayers

L: Hear my prayer, O Lord;
R: and let my cry for help come unto thee.

L: Keep me as the apple of your eye;
R: hide me in the shadow of your wings.

L: In righteousness I shall see you;
R: when I awake, your presence will give me joy.

L: Be present, merciful God, and protect us through the hours of this night, so that we who are wearied by the changes and chances of life may find our rest in you; through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen

>>>>>> OPEN PRAYER TIME (via online chat)

St Francis Prayer
Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.

Where there is hatred, let me sow love; where there is injury, pardon;

where there is doubt, faith; where there is despair, hope;

where there is darkness, light; where there is sadness, joy;

O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled as to console; to be understood as to understand; to be loved as to love.

For it is in giving that we receive; it is in pardoning that we are pardoned; and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life.

Lord's Prayer

Our Father, who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy Name.
Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, On earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, As we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation, But deliver us from evil.
[For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen.]

Gospel Canticle

L: Guide us waking, O Lord, and guard us sleeping; that awake we may watch with Christ and asleep we may rest in peace.

R: Lord, now you let your servant go in peace; your word has been fulfilled. My own eyes have seen the salvation which you have prepared in the sight of ev'ry people: a light to reveal you to the nations and the glory of your people Israel.

L: Glory to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit; as it was in the beginning, is now, and will be forever. Amen

Benediction

L: The almighty and merciful Lord, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, bless us and keep us.
R: Admen

Antiphony:
music tbd

Service Order for 18 August 2008 ev (no replies)

mnphysicist — Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:02:53 -0500

Call to worship:
music tbd

Opening

Leader: The Lord almighty grant us a quiet night and peace at the last.
All: Amen

L: It is good to give thanks to the Lord,
R: to sing praise to your name, O Most High;

L: To herald your love in the morning,
R: Your truth at the close of the day.

Confession
The confession is said responsively, first with the lector confessing and receiving the promise of absolution from the congregation, then with the congregation confessing and receiving the promise of absolution from the lector. [In our case, one member speaks for the congregation, so as not to clutter the chat.]

L: I confess to God Almighty, before the whole company of heaven, and to you, my brothers and sisters, that I have sinned in thought, word, and deed by my fault, by my own fault, by my own most grievous fault; wherefore I pray God Almighty to have mercy on me, forgive me all my sins, and bring me to everlasting life. Amen

R: The almighty and merciful Lord grant you pardon, forgiveness, and remission of all your sins. Amen

R: We confess to God Almighty, before the whole company of heaven, and to you, our brothers and sisters, that we have sinned in thought, word, and deed by our fault, by our own fault, by our own most grievous fault; wherefore we pray God Almighty to have mercy on us, forgive us all our sins, and bring us to everlasting life. Amen

L: The almighty and merciful Lord grant you pardon, forgiveness, and remission of all your sins. Amen.

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Responsorial Psalm
Deuteronomy 32:18-19, 20, 21

L:You have forgotten God who gave you birth.
R:You were unmindful of the Rock that begot you. You forgot the God who gave you birth. When the LORD saw this, he was filled with loathing and anger toward his sons and daughters.
L: You have forgotten God who gave you birth.
R: ?I will hide my face from them,? he said, ?and see what will then become of them. What a fickle race they are, sons with no loyalty in them!?
L: You have forgotten God who gave you birth.
R: ?Since they have provoked me with their ?no-god? and angered me with their vain idols, I will provoke them with a ?no-people?; with a foolish nation I will anger them.?
L: You have forgotten God who gave you birth.

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Responsory

L: Into your hands, O Lord, I commend my spirit.
R: Into your hands I commend my spirit.

L: You have redeemed me, O Lord God of truth.
R: Into your hands I commend my spirit.

L: Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit.
R: Into your hands I commend my spirit.

Liturgical Prayers

L: Hear my prayer, O Lord;
R: and let my cry for help come unto thee.

L: Keep me as the apple of your eye;
R: hide me in the shadow of your wings.

L: In righteousness I shall see you;
R: when I awake, your presence will give me joy.

L: Be present, merciful God, and protect us through the hours of this night, so that we who are wearied by the changes and chances of life may find our rest in you; through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen

>>>>>> OPEN PRAYER TIME (via online chat)

St Francis Prayer
Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.

Where there is hatred, let me sow love; where there is injury, pardon;

where there is doubt, faith; where there is despair, hope;

where there is darkness, light; where there is sadness, joy;

O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled as to console; to be understood as to understand; to be loved as to love.

For it is in giving that we receive; it is in pardoning that we are pardoned; and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life.

Lord's Prayer

Our Father, who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy Name.
Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, On earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, As we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation, But deliver us from evil.
[For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen.]

Gospel Canticle

L: Guide us waking, O Lord, and guard us sleeping; that awake we may watch with Christ and asleep we may rest in peace.

R: Lord, now you let your servant go in peace; your word has been fulfilled. My own eyes have seen the salvation which you have prepared in the sight of ev'ry people: a light to reveal you to the nations and the glory of your people Israel.

L: Glory to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit; as it was in the beginning, is now, and will be forever. Amen

Benediction

L: The almighty and merciful Lord, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, bless us and keep us.
R: Admen

Antiphony:
music tbd

Themes for Aug18-22 based upon the lectionary (no replies)

mnphysicist — Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:01:12 -0500

Aug 18
The young rich man with many possessions, who chose not to follow.

Aug 19
The eye of the Camel... with God all things are possible.

Aug 20
The Parable of the vineyard, the first will be last, the last will be first.

Aug 21
The Kingdom of Heaven and the wedding feast where invited guests did not show up.

Aug 22
The greatest commandment

interesting diseases and disorders (5 replies)

Moriah Conquering Wind — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:58:33 -0500

Let's just say desperation mingled with curiosity can produce some interesting research. One won't necessarily find what one seeks, or what answers one's particular issues, but one can sometimes find some interesting information in the process. And being able to give "reasonable facsimile" names to things helps an awful lot when dealing with a cluster of situations brought about supernaturally rather than medically, which differ in some respect from similar medical afflictions but which bear sufficient similarity to allow for borrowing language from them to communicate what would otherwise be difficult to frame in human language.

Last night's discovery: PSAS (a.k.a. PGAD)
Persistent Sexual Arousal Syndrome
What it bes:

Quote:
Wikipedia
Persistent genital arousal disorder (also known as persistent sexual arousal syndrome or PSAS) results in a spontaneous and persistent genital arousal, with or without orgasm or genital engorgement, unrelated to any feelings of sexual desire. It was first documented by Dr. Sandra Leiblum in 2001, only recently characterized as a distinct syndrome in medical literature. Some physicians use the term Persistent Sexual Arousal Syndrome to refer to the condition in women..... In particular, it is not related to hypersexuality, sometimes known as nymphomania or satyriasis. In addition to being very rare, the condition is also frequently unreported by sufferers who may consider it shameful or embarrassing.

Physical arousal caused by this syndrome can be very intense and persist for extended periods, days or weeks at a time. Orgasm can sometimes provide temporary relief, but within hours the symptoms return. The symptoms can be debilitating, preventing concentration on mundane tasks. Some situations, such as riding in an automobile or train, vibrations from mobile phones, and even going to the toilet can aggravate the syndrome unbearably.

There is not enough known about persistent genital arousal disorder to definitively pinpoint a cause. Medical professionals think it is caused by an irregularity in sensory nerves, and note that the disease has a tendency to strike post-menopausal women in their 40s and 50s, or those who've undergone hormonal treatment. It can affect a person at any age.

Quote:
Dr. Irwin Goldstein
Based on patients who either presented for evaluation to the Center for Sexual Medicine or who communicated by e-mail to the Institute for Sexual Medicine, we have gained data on this unusual sexual dysfunction. We propose new definitions based on existing definitions but await the medical community to consense these new definitions appropriately. Persistent Sexual Arousal Syndrome/Disorder may be considered as the persistent, recurrent or continuous ability to attain or maintain sufficient sexual excitement, causing personal distress. It may be expressed as excessive subjective excitement or excessive genital (lubrication, swelling, engorgement) or other somatic responses. Some patients are better classified as having Persistent Orgasmic Syndrome/Disorder. Persistent Orgasmic Syndrome/Disorder may be considered as the persistent, recurrent or continuous attainment of or need to attain orgasm following minimal or absent sexual stimulation and arousal, which causes personal distress. On the other hand, some patients are better classified as having Persistent Sexual Desire Disorder. Persistent Sexual Desire Disorder may be considered as the persistent, recurrent or continuous presence of sexual fantasies, thoughts, and/or desire for, or receptivity to, sexual activity, which causes personal distress.

Women with PSAS share common features of their sexual dysfunction. The most common is the torment and the ruling of their lives by the persistent sexual arousal. There is a universal feeling of despair in part because the medical community does not recognize the existence of the condition and because the patients feel that they will therefore have to live the rest of their lives with the PSAS-hell. Phrases mentioned by patients in this regard include, "my life has been sheer hell" and."I want my LIFE BACK!".

"Sitting is unbearable, sometimes causing pressure to orgasm. Standing is the only time I feel nothing. Sitting in a car is torture." "The opening of the vagina is just as sensitive and a mere touch will bring me to orgasm. My husband is very sympathetic and relieves the terrible pressure anytime I ask. Those close to me that I've told about this at first think it's funny and then realize that indeed it is not."

"It's so hard for me to feel any hope when I am in the middle of this. For the last couple of weeks I have just been practicing thinking that I may have to go on with my life in spite of this." "I have made such a wonderful life for myself and I am just so terrified that this will finally be the thing that pushes me over the edge. Because I am so blessed, I have so much to lose."

"I was constantly feeling overwhelming sensations of sexual arousal, which were purely physical and not accompanied by romantic or sexual fantasies. Basically I felt the need to have repeated orgasms which was never relieved by normal orgasmic experience." "I was so uncomfortable I thought about jumping off the roof just to make it go away."

(Source: [www.bumc.bu.edu])

What it bes NOT:
PSAS should not be confused with hypersexuality.

Quote:
Wikipedia
Hypersexuality is the desire to engage in human sexual behavior at a level high enough to be considered clinically significant. Hypersexuality is characterized by a debilitating need for frequent genital stimulation which, once achieved, may fail to result in the expected long-term sexual—or emotional—satisfaction. This dissatisfaction is what is believed to encourage the heightened frequency of sexual stimulation, as well as additional physiological and neurological symptoms....

The concept of hypersexuality replaces the older concepts of nymphomania (or furor uterinus) and satyriasis. Nymphomania was believed to be a female psychological disorder characterized by an overactive libido and an obsession with sex. In males the disorder was called satyriasis (for etymology of the words, see nymph and satyr). "Nymphomania" and "satyriasis" are no longer listed as specific disorders in the DSM-IV, though they remain a part of ICD-10.

The interested reader may 'Google' the terms "persistent genital arousal disorder" or "persistent sexual arousal syndrome" for more information.

John Sheasby (no replies)

The Lord is my banner — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:08:05 -0500

This guy has a most beautiful revelation of the grace of our heavenly Father, and I have never felt wounded by anything in his sermons - how rare and precious is that?! :)

I am subscribed to his monthly podcast here:
[www.liberatedliving.com]

On really bad days I've sometimes listened to him continuously at work to push out thoughts I'd rather not be entertaining.

He is a blessing,and I hope others here will find peace, healing and encouragement in his words.

Faith (no replies)

Criada — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:26:32 -0500

Habbukuk 3:
17 Though the fig tree does not bud
and there are no grapes on the vines,
though the olive crop fails
and the fields produce no food,
though there are no sheep in the pen
and no cattle in the stalls,

18 yet I will rejoice in the LORD,
I will be joyful in God my Savior.

That is where I want to be, Lord. Please, increase my trust, my faith and my love for You. Lord, I want to praise You in every circumstance. Please, teach me to look to You and not to any outward pressure or problem. I know You work everything for good... forgive my impatience, Lord... teach me how to 'quiet my soul within me like a weaned child' and to wait patiently for You.
I love you, Lord....

Seeker-Friendly Models (5 replies)

Moriah Conquering Wind — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:31:41 -0500

The forum affiliated with the God Journey (http://thegodjourney.com/forums/) seems to have a pretty good seeker-friendly community going on. Moriah pops in there now and then to post a thing or two but has stayed only on the fringes of the community there.
(It actually had a rather negative experience when it first came there, not due to the community as a whole but due to a little clique of about 4 people who "ruled the roost" and probably saw incisive newcomers capable of exposing their doing so as a threat. In fact the one who basically swiftly made things intolerable there actually came forward later to not only apologize openly for what she'd done but to very courageously expose her own wrongdoings which others not only DID not know but WOULD not have known unless told, though Moriah with its annoying "spidey senses" had invariably caught the scent thereof. ^_^ )

Anyway so much for why it has stayed only on the fringes there since -- overall this community actually provides a good working model for a seeker-friendly forum, one worth studying. It bes driven by common interest generated in weekly podcasts by the two fellows who run the site. Those who listen to the podcasts and enjoy them go on from there to join the forum and participate with others who share interest in the topics -- and the conversations they get up to there bes really AWESOME. They have a section for conversations based on the podcasts by topic, a section for potential meet-ups to happen arranged by geolocation, and other sections for discussion. So check it out!

New Post Updating bug (no replies)

Moriah Conquering Wind — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:40:19 -0500

Hey Ron,

Some of the subforums apparently do not display the little notations on the front page when new posts appear. There will be new posts or new threads there but the notices (1 new) or (3 new) do not appear on the index page next to the thread and post counts like they do for other subforums.

The two Moriah has noticed having this problem bes Chit Chat Cafe and Exploratory Religious Discussion, though there might be others having this problem.

Additionally, sometimes the notice does not "clear" after visiting the section with the new posts or threads. This happens most notably in the Individual Blogs section but might be happening elsewhere as well.

Can we get this fixed? If there bes anything Moriah can do just shoot a PM letting us know what to check for in the settings or whatever.

Personal Goals (2 replies)

Moriah Conquering Wind — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:15:12 -0500

We have just a little over 1/3 of this year remaining, a good time to set and work toward some personal goals.

What have you achieved in this past year that you wanted to in terms of developing a better lifestyle? What would you still like to achieve?

Moriah quit smoking cigarettes on April 9, 2008 and has not gone back so far - yay! (It got way easier after the first month)
Thanks to the compline and other online services we had here for a couple months this spring, Moriah has become able to pray on its own again (provided They bes not subjugating at the time). Not as effectively or fruitfully as it would like, but far better than not being able to at all.

Goals for the rest of the year:
* start regular exercise again
* reduce consumption of meat and animal products
* reduce alcohol consumption
* pray more! ^_^

Anyone else want to share?

Personal Experience (3 replies)

Moriah Conquering Wind — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:32:47 -0500

It occurred to Moriah this morning we don't really have a section for just sharing personal experiences with Christ. Not necessarily "testimonies" (stories of how one came to faith) though that can be included if people enjoy sharing theirs -- but an area set aside to just post something like "Hey, the Lord showed me this or that thing last night" or "yesterday at church we prayed for this woman and she got healed" -- stuff like that.

Insights from scripture fit nicely into either General or Exploratory Religious Discussion, but these kinds of personal experiences really need their own space IMO, under the Religious section. They merit something more substantive than the "Chit Chat" section and they don't really fit under "Prayer".

Speaking of which, Ron, might we change the term "religious" to "faith"? Religious/religion seems to imply a system whereas faith implies a dynamic, interactive process. That might just be Moriah's mental maps for the word, but just making the suggestion. If both General and Exploratory bes meant to be from the Christian vicinity of approach (despite a wide variety of views and beliefs therein) then the term "faith" would be fitting -- and we could always make a section for interfaith discussions, e.g., examining a topic from both a Christian and, e.g., a Buddhist point of view, or whatever, if the interest in that arises here organically.

How Big is Your Footprint? (1 reply)

chrys — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:13:05 -0500

A fun website to help you determine the size of your ecological footprint: Footprint Calculator

I was amazed at how many planets it would take to sustain my way of life. Must make changes soon!

Composting (8 replies)

merryheart — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:27:26 -0500

Anybody doing it? I am thinking of starting....

Jumping Fence? (4 replies)

chrys — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:18:47 -0500

Always greener on the other side of the fence. Got News of the Green? Post it here!

IKEA to Sell Solar Panels?

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Efforts to commercialize new and affordable green technologies within several years could lead to IKEA selling the resulting products at its growing collection of stores, currently 283 in more than 30 nations. The goods reportedly would relate to energy in the form of solar panels, efficiency meters, and lighting; as well as more sustainable materials, and water treatment and conservation.

Disturbing Children's Cartoon (8 replies)

Keiko — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 09:06:41 -0500

[www.youtube.com]

This cartoon was apparently banned from television. It's very disturbing, lol.

"Who are you?"

"I'm an angel."

"What's your name?"

"Satan."

Cracked me up pretty bad but it even creeps me out to watch! You have been warned! :haha:

So -- Who Wants to Start a Work-Out Accountability Group? (14 replies)

Moriah Conquering Wind — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:19:18 -0500

Anyone interested? Would be great to get some newbs, couchtaters and lightweights together who bes looking to make lifestyle changes, restart botched efforts or continue progressing onward from a fresh start, to mutually support one another and give a gentle foot to behind when needed. Used to be diligent about this stuff but got lazy a few years ago and lost the habit, so it would be good to have others interested in mutual motivation to get back in the saddle.

Obviously it won't be as motivating as getting together IRL to work out, but we can at least share tips and progress and encourage one another to persevere when we feel like slacking off.

Any interest? Post here!

Recycling (1 reply)

chrys — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:20:16 -0500

Probably the first step to "going off the grid" and eliminating one's carbon footprint is recycling. So, what can be recycled? Virtually everything.

Aluminum
Aluminum foil
Tin foil
Aluminum films on containers
Aluminum seals
Plastic
Soft drink, water and salad dressing bottles; peanut butter and jam jars
Milk, juice and water bottles; trash and retail bags
Juice bottles; cling films; PVC piping
Frozen food bags; squeezable bottles, e.g. honey, mustard; cling films; flexible container lids.
Reusable microwaveable ware; kitchenware; yogurt containers; margarine tubs; microwaveable disposable take-away containers; disposable cups and plates, drinking straws.
Egg cartons; packing peanuts; "Styrofoam"; disposable cups, plates, trays and cutlery; disposable take-away containers;
Beverage bottles; baby milk bottles; electronic casing.
Glass (doesn't matter what color)
Paper
Magazines
Telephone Directories
Direct Mail
Envelopes
Catalogues
Newspaper
Office paper
Cardboard
Cereal boxes (and the like)
Shoe boxes
Corrugated cardboard
Waxed cardboard (milk and juice cartons)
Batteries
Rechargable Batteries (recycle these at Alltel, Batteries Plus, Best Buy, Black & Decker, Cingular Wireless, The Home Depot, Milwaukee Electric Tool, Orchard Supply, Porter Cable Service Center, RadioShack, Remington Product Company, Sears, Staples, Target, US Cellular, Verizon Wireless, and Wal-Mart. And in Canada: Battery Plus, Bell Mobility, Canadian Tire, FIDO/Microcell, Future Shop, The Home Depot, Home Hardware, London Drugs, Makita Factory Service Centers, Personal Edge/Centre du Rasoir, RadioShack Canada, Revy, Sasktel, Sears, The Sony Store, Telus Mobility and Zellers)
All other batteries, see: Battery Disposal Guide

Bamboo Sheets and Blue Balls! (for your dryer, hehe) (16 replies)

Moriah Conquering Wind — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:14:34 -0500

Bamboo has become one of today's "hottest" renewable and sustainable resources for fiber and fabric on the planet. Will post some informative links etc. here when it has more time.

Recently bought its first 2 sets of bamboo sheets and utterly amazed at how soft and luxurious they feel. The thread count bes somewhere between 300-450 (can't remember exactly) but they literally feel much softer and elegant than 800-thread Egyptian cotton sateen sheets which cost twice or even 3x as much!!! Pardon the unwanted imagery but Moriah slept in the raw for the first time in many years after putting those sheets on the bed fresh from the dryer. ;) They just felt too wonderful to spoil with pyjamas!!

And speaking of electric dryers ... did you know they now make a set of spikey balls to be used to eliminate static and thus reduce the waste of dryer sheets? These balls have no scent but they work wonders at getting rid of static cling -- the main use for which people choose dryer sheets (which don't break down in landfills). A small sachet of lavender from a local farm (good for about 6-10 rounds of laundry) does the trick for adding a very light and pleasant fresh scent to the washload.